Ok, our host is one computer in MI on a network (not a problem unless someone is streaming video on another computer. Ooops!!), in SC there is a couple sharing a network that joins and here, in WA state (all USA) there is me and sometimes my husband on our network. We use the IP connection. It didn't work very well when the friend that plays with his wife wanted to host it though. He could start a game, but we couldn't rejoin when it was exited and restarted.
So, we are already using the direct IP method and pretty successfully. We we do start to get OOS, its later in the game, usually involving a battle or the loss of a city and usually if one person on a network is OOS, the other one is too. So, if I'm OOS, my husband will be for instance. Or if one of the couple on SC is, the other will be.
I don't remember how my husband's computer is set up, I go DMZ when I play. Not sure if I need to, but it's easy and I don't really understand routers that well. I don't know my new router very well, though it seems to help a bit. Can I PM you with the details?
We communicate on the phone, most of us have long distance plans so it doesn't cost us.
i cant think of anything that would help you guys on the OOS front. since this is the modding to increase performance thread i am worried about carrying on further a basic OOS diagnostic thread in the middle of it all... PM always welcome, i am basically compiling a private diagnostic to figure out the CTD mostly, the OOS is a whole other reach... and i think i will move our exchange off to the OOS thread -- i dont see a sticky permanent OOS thread and would love to see an Administrator here create a sticky thread on OOS... for example while looking for such a place i randomly came across one of your old questions relating to OOS at http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=327652 and thinking maybe "The only thing, every time a revolution popup appears, you have to make every player pick the same option, because your rev popups appear for all the players. Otherwise you get an OOS error". so i wouldnt mind taking all OOS conversations and copying them into a permanent sticky OOS thread. somewhere in all of that there can be a useful solution...
in all humility my IT skills are not kept within my head but rather i have a good bloodhound's ability to find posted reputable solution paths, so i do it here. all problems are already solved, its just a matter of finding the right history and applying it. your OOS solution exists somewhere in this massive RoM or even CIV itself thread monster...

please PM me so i can at least compile some stats on what type of PC and other details may contribute to the OOS/CTDs...
