More Histograph attempts

[Denniz]

Let's see. We discussed Huge HoF attempts using Pangaea vs. Archipelgo and Monarchy vs. Republic. How about number of opponents? Min or Max? I have always played min but I noticed Superslug is play with 17. Am I missing another max scoring technique or what?

 

[superslug]

Am I missing another max scoring technique or what?

Not at all, I maxed out the AI because I was looking for a violent bloodbath of a map, and that was for fun, nothing else.

The milker "standard" is the minimum of eight. It has many many advantages.

For starters, it allows you to really customize your AI and have more influence/control over the game's tech pace and direction.

Secondly, it allows much more space to expand initially, which helps score slightly in the long run.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, the amount of luxury and strategic resources placed around the map increases with the number of civilizations. Since there's only so many bonus resources to be put on a map, however, this decreases the food bonuses. So with eight AI, your map will have slightly more food (i.e. better chance of a multicow start).

 

[Denniz]

I revisited my Republic Archipelago map. I had played up to the mid-1400's when I slipped up one turn and had a city I intended to abandon via a settler starve instead. Actually I had two go that way. I ended up exactly at the dom limit. I went back to the save I had made to check the dom limit, and redid the same settler purchases and went on. Only this time I made sure they didn't starve. I played a little while longer but I am tired of fighting WW and my city placement sucks. Way too much work to beg a reprieve.

(BTW, that's my newest trick. When I am close to the dom limit, I get some of my poor terrain cities down to 2 pop and leave only enough farming to maintain that size while they build a settler. That way I always have a few I can dump at the last minute. I know, not exactly earth-shattering secret, but I does what I can. )

I started a couple more. The most recent one was looking real good. Three lux in range lots of grassland two, two cow cities. I even got a SGL with Writing. Unforetunatly, I used him to build Pyramids. I kind of forgot that they would kick off a despotic GA.

Oh well, I still have a couple more good maps, but I better fire up MapFinder again.

 

[Denniz]

3 days worth of mapfinder netted 22 maps. (edit: Huge, Archipelago, 80%, wet, warm, 5 bil, Maya, Emperor)

Here are some of the better ones:

The number is the domination limit.

Even if I don't play the ones without cows, that's a lot of hours of play to check these out.

 

[Own]

What difficulty? If Monarch or lower I'd pick the highest domination limit, not worrying about the cows.

 

[Denniz]

@Own, still looking for that perfect Emperor game.

So for, I've tried the 4444 game (4 cows, but solid jungle to the east) and 4439 game (mountains and tundra in productive region). The last did produce an interesting picture. I'm not sure I've seen the AI do this before.

Makes me want to play it out a little further just to find out what's on the other side.

I decided to shake up the competition this time around. Opponents: Mongols, America, Zulu, Arabia, Inca, Russia, Aztecs and China. I dropped Eygpt and Hitittes for last two. Mainly to get Alphabet to myself for that early SGL chance.

 

[Own]

I've been attempting some emperor games, nobody has gotten to 50000 yet.

 

[bluejay]

The last did produce an interesting picture. I'm not sure I've seen the AI do this before.

I hadn't seen it until yesterday. I was playing a small archipelago at Deity level. The AI sent out a scouting party of 4(!) spears. They avoided attacking my capital, guarded by only 1 warrior. When they left, one spear remained behind, fortified on a chokepoint, blocking me from occupying good territory.

 

[a space oddity]

Just to let you know: I finally submitted my game. I didn't catch Svar but I came a lot closer than I expected... 40967 is the final score. Here's the final per turn graphic of the games discussed earlier (I think turn 320 through 360 made the difference, that is where I moved cities around to optimize the food/tiles):

 

[Denniz]

40967 is the final score.

Great score!

 

[Mistfit]

Isn't it time for a quick domination game

You choose the battlefield this time

 

[Denniz]

Isn't it time for a quick domination game

You're on.

You choose the battlefield this time

How about Emperor. I'll let you pick the size.

 

[Mistfit]

I vote for either Tiny or Small ~ Both have a very respectable date but I think we can beat them.

The biggest reason for the smaller size is actually a lack of Civ time at the moment. But I think I can find enough time to bust out some 2-6 hour games

 

[Denniz]

Let's do tiny. We can do small when you demand a rematch.

We probably should start a new thread, though. This one's about Huge Histographs. I haven't given up yet. I have one going where I am alone on a pretty large landmass (~20% of Dom). Plus, I got 2 SGL in the early AA.