CIVPhilzilla
Reagan Republican
What about Scientology? 
More Religions?
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Rancid Sushi
Last year's catch
If you are serious, then you need to lay off Dubya's specialty Kool-Aid. It's starting to mess with your head.
I go to college, but it's not as bad as what I hear from others. Numerous people have their professors on tape saying all sorts of derogatory things about religion and people of faith. And they say liberals are supposed to be tolerant, yeah right.
In regards to Bush: I spit the kool-aid in his face when he started selling our country out by supporting amnesty for illegals. He's a lousy president.
Jerrymander
Epistemologist
Hell, Mormonism would be even worse than Islam.
After 50 years, your one city that does have it decides to suddenly not be Mormon anymore, because it is the laughingstock of the Civ world.
After 50 years, your one city that does have it decides to suddenly not be Mormon anymore, because it is the laughingstock of the Civ world.
lutzj
The Last Thing You See
Hell, Mormonism would be even worse than Islam.
After 50 years, your one city that does have it decides to suddenly not be Mormon anymore, because it is the laughingstock of the Civ world.
That doesn't make any sense. This is coming from a Catholic, you obviously no nothing about Mormonism. And what do you mean, "worse than Islam"? What's wrong with Islam???
Are you living a hole? One of the Middle East's biggest issues right now is the rift between Sunnis and Shi'ites
Jerrymander
Epistemologist
I meant in game. Islam almost never spreads in Civ4.
EDIT: Oh, I see. You saw the underlying message in my comment. Haha, I might know more about Mormonism than you. I have nothing against Islam, but Mormonism is a laughingstock of a religion. Almost as bad a scientology.
EDIT: Oh, I see. You saw the underlying message in my comment. Haha, I might know more about Mormonism than you. I have nothing against Islam, but Mormonism is a laughingstock of a religion. Almost as bad a scientology.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
The problem with Mormonism is that it only exists among a very limited group of people, hardly deserving comparison to the world religions featured in Civ- religions likes Christianity, Buddhism or Islam cut across ethnic and linguistic boundaries, while Mormonism is overwhelmingly limited to a specific region and a specific ethnic group- Anglo-Saxons (in the same sense as it is used in "WASP", rather than in the historical sense). Even Hinduism, which is largely limited to India, does this- because we in the west tend to think of India as a single country due to it's past as a British colony (even though the existence of Pakistan and Bangladesh proves this false), we forget that it is in fact quite diverse in terms of linguistic and ethnic groups.
Of course, this forces us to acknowledge several religions already in the game which have similar issues- Judaism, Taoism and Confucianism. Firstly, Judaism is practiced almost exclusively by a single ethnic group, and it's inclusion in the game is more an acknowledgment of Judaism's indirecy influence via Christianity and Islam, rather than it's influence in itself- there are, after all, many more Sikhs than Jews. Secondly, Taoism and Confucianism are similarly limited to what is largely a single ethnic group, Han Chinese. In this case, it has to be assumed that their inclusion is due to the great size and influence of this particular ethnic group and their influence on Chinese culture, as well as possibly being an attempt to make the game appear less Eurocentric.
If a new religion had to be chosen, I'd put my vote down for Zoroastrianism. The only other religions of real historical significance tend to be too regional, as with Shinto and Sikhism, and too tied into a single culture.
Of course, this forces us to acknowledge several religions already in the game which have similar issues- Judaism, Taoism and Confucianism. Firstly, Judaism is practiced almost exclusively by a single ethnic group, and it's inclusion in the game is more an acknowledgment of Judaism's indirecy influence via Christianity and Islam, rather than it's influence in itself- there are, after all, many more Sikhs than Jews. Secondly, Taoism and Confucianism are similarly limited to what is largely a single ethnic group, Han Chinese. In this case, it has to be assumed that their inclusion is due to the great size and influence of this particular ethnic group and their influence on Chinese culture, as well as possibly being an attempt to make the game appear less Eurocentric.
If a new religion had to be chosen, I'd put my vote down for Zoroastrianism. The only other religions of real historical significance tend to be too regional, as with Shinto and Sikhism, and too tied into a single culture.
So? There's been violence Catholics and Protestants and that doesn't mean they're different enough to be considered religions independent of Christianity. Yes, I do know there's violence between the two groups. No, I don't know the difference other than the basics as I've never looked that far into either chapter.
Kaiser Mac Cleg
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I believe that there should be more religions avaiulable in Civ4. Zoroastrianism is an obvious choice, but I'd like to see the Roman/Greek Polytheism in the game as well. It's all very well saying that Hinduism could represent it, as that is Polytheism as well, but the two religions are very different, and I'd love to see Roman/Greek Polytheism added to the game.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Well, the Greco-Roman mythos is essentially represented by the Paganism civic.
What people forget about Hinduism is that, while it initially evolved out of a polytheistic faith not to distant from those of other cultures, it reached a much higher level of theology. In the same way that Zoroastrianism and Judaism evolved out of the polytheistic faiths of the middle east, modern Hinduism evolved from Indian polytheism, but through a less direct route. By comparison, the Greeks and Romans left their complex thought to philosophers, while their religion was mostly focused on mysticism, ritual and power, and was eventually swept away with the emergence of Christianity.
(It's also worth noting that traditional Taoism also contains polytheistic elements, although this is partly due to the confused nature of religion and philosophy in Asia.)
What people forget about Hinduism is that, while it initially evolved out of a polytheistic faith not to distant from those of other cultures, it reached a much higher level of theology. In the same way that Zoroastrianism and Judaism evolved out of the polytheistic faiths of the middle east, modern Hinduism evolved from Indian polytheism, but through a less direct route. By comparison, the Greeks and Romans left their complex thought to philosophers, while their religion was mostly focused on mysticism, ritual and power, and was eventually swept away with the emergence of Christianity.
(It's also worth noting that traditional Taoism also contains polytheistic elements, although this is partly due to the confused nature of religion and philosophy in Asia.)
All the ancient "mythologies" (which were full religions until the new major religions started calling them pagans) are represented by the lack of a major religion in the game. I believe the manual states your people follow the ancient mythologies until they convert to a major religion represented in the game.
PimpyMicPimp
Regrets His Username.
Scientology. The missionaries jump like up and down like ******** rabbits on Oprah's couch...
Peepers
On the road again
The Church of Scientology should be founded by the first to discover Corporation...or maybe Fascism.
Edit: better yet, founded by the last to discover Liberalism!
(Yah, big fan of LRH's legacy)
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