MSAV Discussion on major strategies

[Provolution]

I am respectfully waiting for our Honorable Foreign Minister Civgeneral and his Deputy Donovan Zois Doctrine for our Diplomatic goals.

Now, having made a poll on all response system to invasions on our continent, I want you to consider that our Western and Eastern navies can only handle the capture of only ONE city per turnchat overseas, and it takes 2-3 turnchats to get them in position. This also requires a Draft Order to fill those ships with infantrymen. So a foreign policy should only open for a defense of our coast, or regional retaliatory penal expeditions through naval projection of force.

Additionally, we also have an Imperial Commando, which can have as key objective to seize and sabotage iron, horse, steam, coal, oil and rubber resources, intervene to save a minor nation, stop an enemy wonder build, or to teach a lesson to a nation using spies and privateers against us, or enters our waters without respecting our authority and sovereignty.

Finally,our Privateer Flotilla, based at Tonawonda, can strike at foreign colonial vessels, scouts or invasion flotillas WITH IMPUNITY. Our foreign policy as discussed and polled by FA will dictate this, and MSAV will loyally follow up the WOTP doctrinal foreign policy fo Foreign Ministry.

MSAV hopes that our citizens find good use in defining military objectives in foreign policy for our Eastern and Western navies, marine forces of draftees, Privateer Flotilla out of Tonawonda and our Imperial Commando in Oil Springs (no relation to Imperial Oil whatsoever...)

 

[Nobody]

Okay.
If the navy is needed then it will proberly be on either the east ot west coast not both so we will only need to mobilise 20 not 40. (we could have a lottery for the citys which get drafted.) and why could or navy only take 1 city. 20 or 40 riflemen could take 2 citys and defend them properly. They could use a "mince meat" Tactic of just charging in and takeing the city. Theres conscripts so casulties is of no concern (TO the young men of our nation. Do worry we care about you, and you care about Glory of Japantika). Our navy isnt strong enough to Blockade the enemy or totally defend our coast. but they can be used to deliver our marines to there targets and to defend our coasts some.

Our special forces are cool and should be used in the war you describe. They are the best of the Best. If we invade alarge enemy, they should be the first to arive and last to leave.

Pirates should be used to harass our major economy rivals. And a question are they really "WITH IMPUNITY" or does the AI know whos they are.

And contingencys plans for our continent are very important once these are offical you should post them all in the military thread with cool operation names and discriptions. Like all the plans america has for every little thing (like war with Switzerland)

Standard disclaimer: I am not saying we should use our forces for war, but in case of war we need to be prepared.

 

[blackheart]

Ok, you're sending mixed signals Provo. You've made plans to invade and raid other nations, advocated wars that we will surely win, yet you want to make this game interesting. So, what is the goal of the MSAV?...

 

[Provolution]

I am just presenting our capabilities, and now you can discuss it. I am sorry to see you got little vision byeond the mixed signals. I hope other citizens have more constructive input on how these should be used in certain situations.

 

[blackheart]

I am just presenting our capabilities, and now you can discuss it. I am sorry to see you got little vision byeond the mixed signals. I hope other citizens have more constructive input on how these should be used in certain situations.

Oh it is always easy to call others short sighted and unconstructive when they question isn't it?

As for the privateers, are they really necessary? There isn't much to strike against, and wouldn't they be considered dishonorable?

 

[Provolution]

BH, you know the game rules pretty well, and you know the capabilities of privateers, the floow is yours, discussion is opened.

 

[blackheart]

BH, you know the game rules pretty well, and you know the capabilities of privateers, the floow is yours, discussion is opened.

It's just that some people are discussing to make the game honorable, interesting, etc. Using privateers doesn't follow the code of honor, ingame and real life of Japan.

 

[Provolution]

ok Blackheart, your voice has been heard and noted, and the discussion is still going.

 

[Nobody]

You've made plans to invade and raid other nations, advocated wars that we will surely win, yet you want to make this game interesting. So, what is the goal of the MSAV?

The Military is not surpose to plan for peace, they are meant to plan for the worst possiable situation, like war. And as we have just recently been invaded it is not entirely impossiable that it would happen again. The military discusses plans and it is the job of the foriegn and culture departments to keep the peace so that these plans are never used.

as for pirateers i don't like them. but i thought the people had already said ok to them and we began buliding them. (i might be wrong) maybe we should have one last poll, just to give the military permission to use these scum tactics. (attacking while hiding who you are is scum like it or not)

 

[blackheart]

(i might be wrong) maybe we should have one last poll, just to give the military permission to use these scum tactics. (attacking while hiding who you are is scum like it or not)

You gotta remember, winners write the history books.

 

[Ashburnham]

I'm going to have to throw my support with BH on this one. There's really no reason for us to use privateers in our navy. It is extremely dishonorable, and unbefitting of our place as leading nation in the world. What need have we to sabatoge our neighbor's fleets with pirates? We have no need to hide our intentions behind criminals. Down with the privateer fleet. Up with Honor.

 

[classical_hero]

Once we get Steam Power and coal, we can change Privateers to Ironclads. This would be a more "honourable" way of doing things.

 

[Provolution]

Privateers are not upgradeable to Ironclads, and they are indeed a special force meant to stop colonization and invasion without starting a fullscale war. I want people to be constructive here, not just destructive. Plus, the privateers are technically on a letter of Marquee, and work independently with loose guidelines from us.

 

[Nobody]

a more honarable way to use them would be a coastal patrol, to remove forigen ships from our waters with out a chance of war.

 

[Provolution]

It is also honorable to secure future island bases to secure our diplomatic victory, and to protect our neigbors from naval invasion.

 

[classical_hero]

Privateers are not upgradeable to Ironclads, and they are indeed a special force meant to stop colonization and invasion without starting a fullscale war. I want people to be constructive here, not just destructive. Plus, the privateers are technically on a letter of Marquee, and work independently with loose guidelines from us.

I did not use the word upgrade, I used the word changed. That means that I would prefer to have Ironclads over Privateers.

 

[Provolution]

Admiral Classical Hero, you run the honorable Western fleet for a reason, where Grand Admiral Ali run Privateers for a reason

 

[ali]

Prieeteers are a means to an end id like to use them to spoil any major fleet gatherings from the other continent that could lead to a major sea invasion of our nation without the need to entangle into a overseas war