So here's the scenario. Me (Babylon) and Trajan are long-time allies. However, the AI tells him to go for RV, so none of that means anything as There Can Be Only One. He starts spamming apostles at me. Now, the AI cheats with apostles in some way or other so most civ's in the player's hands can't keep pace. My inquisition can't match the pace.
He racks 200< grievances while breaking promise after promise not to convert more cities. Since we're allies, I can't do anything militarily to toss these jerks. Then the alliance ends, and I denounce. He still has plenty of grievances stacked against him. Everybody hates him now. I wait my 5 so that I can formally declare. I have many options for a CB. I choose to a joint Holy War with my other ally, Shaka. Seems like everything is above board.
Then an emergency pops. And I'm the target. I have to be dealt with for betraying Trajan. Even tho I have no other enemies, and everyone is happy if not friends, No big deal. This'll get voted down.
Blammo! Three civ's throw in a whopper of 20< votes go to war with me. They really wanted my blood. And the kicker is, of course, that Shaka threw or alliance away to get in on the action. I might not mind riding this out, except that when all is said and done the rewards for the emergency are paltry compared to the cancelled trade and deals this is costing me. For 60 freakin turns.
What is the betrayal here? I went through the motions of waiting for the CB. How long was I supposed to wait before this dirtbag was fair game? And why are civ's that like me so eager for my blood? Like I said, the grievance stack was on Trajan.
Whole thing leaves a bad taste as I was clearly painted into a corner.
He racks 200< grievances while breaking promise after promise not to convert more cities. Since we're allies, I can't do anything militarily to toss these jerks. Then the alliance ends, and I denounce. He still has plenty of grievances stacked against him. Everybody hates him now. I wait my 5 so that I can formally declare. I have many options for a CB. I choose to a joint Holy War with my other ally, Shaka. Seems like everything is above board.
Then an emergency pops. And I'm the target. I have to be dealt with for betraying Trajan. Even tho I have no other enemies, and everyone is happy if not friends, No big deal. This'll get voted down.
Blammo! Three civ's throw in a whopper of 20< votes go to war with me. They really wanted my blood. And the kicker is, of course, that Shaka threw or alliance away to get in on the action. I might not mind riding this out, except that when all is said and done the rewards for the emergency are paltry compared to the cancelled trade and deals this is costing me. For 60 freakin turns.
What is the betrayal here? I went through the motions of waiting for the CB. How long was I supposed to wait before this dirtbag was fair game? And why are civ's that like me so eager for my blood? Like I said, the grievance stack was on Trajan.
Whole thing leaves a bad taste as I was clearly painted into a corner.
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