My Mac Specs - Can I Play On Higher Than "Low" Settings & Can I Play Largest Map Size

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Hi, just got Civ V last week and am loving it! :)

I bought a physical copy which made me set up through Steam which I've never used before but it was pretty easy to do. I've played two games so far - one on a Standard Map Size/Continents/Standard Speed and one on a Large Map Size/Small Continents/Quick Speed.

The graphic settings were automatically set by the game to almost all the lowest settings (some even on "Minimum" - my poor leaders in diplomacy are just static cartoon pictures that don't even move! :( ). Rather than try right away to force higher settings I've just played on the low ones for now hoping for great performance before switching higher.

Unfortunately the performance has been slow and stuttery even with these low settings, especially later in the game and especially on the Large map I played. Sometimes on the later turns I'd wait almost a minute after pressings next turn while it processed everything. In the later game I even started playing almost completely in Strategy mode to speed it up a bit which is way uglier to play on and still takes a long time between turns but makes scrolling and movement during my turn faster.

Oh and the game quit all the sudden on the very first turn of my second game but so far that's the only time it's quit. And one other thing - on some tiles there are little red things - they kind of look like the top to a hut or lava on a mountain or something but it's obvious they're not - I haven't seen very many so far but when I do they're very noticeably a bright unnatural red and they never go away from that tile until and if I build something over it.

So, what I'm hoping for of course is to have the game work faster, but not only that but also to up the settings to at least medium and still be able to play well, and also I want to play the biggest maps and have it play well.

Here's the specs on my Mac:

Macbook Pro 13"
Late 2009 model
Version 10.6.8
2.26 GHz
Intel Core 2 Duo
4 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M Graphics Card
I think it's Snow Leopard - I haven't updated yet so it's whatever it came with

I know it might not work perfectly but I'd expect it to work better than it seems to so far (but anyway I'm just glad it works).

What I'm wondering is, is this normal and is there anything I can do to make it better and what's the best settings and largest maps I should be able to play on?

For now I'm using this laptop but I'm also considering getting a new computer by the end of the year - I'll probably get another Mac and was looking to just update the laptop but I may get a desktop instead if it may help game speeds.

Thanks for any help!
 
Definitely not. I have a better MBP (15" MBP, 2010 core i5 Nvidia 330M) than you and as soon as I get past turn ~30 on even a Standard map, I am forced to play in Strategic Mode. Even with graphics turned all the way low and Fog of War completely disabled.

You'll do okish if you play in BootCamp, though.
 
Yeah, Nvidia+Mac = bad. They won't fix their Mac drivers, so Apple stopped using them. Better off in Bootcamp. It's an Nvidia issue.
 
I should point out that the 9400M isn't a GPU we support for Civ V. I doubt you'll be able to turn the graphics up or raise the map size too much and have playable performance outside of strategic mode.
 
Bummer!

I've never used Bootcamp before but if it will really help I'm willing to give it a go. How much hard drive space and ram does it take up though and how much faster would it make Civ? Also, will I be able to use the copy of Civ I already bought on Bootcamp?

Well, I also may just update to a newer Mac sooner than I was planning. I have a few questions though for anyone willing to help:

Will a desktop make the game faster than a laptop? What kind of performance would I be looking at? Will any of them run Civ in its higher settings on the largest maps fast?

I had a quick look over and a Mac Pro is probably too expensive. The others though - iMac, Mac Mini and Macbook Pro - which would be best?
 
Boot camp takes as much HDD as you give it. (I give it 80 GB or so.. depends on how much you will install in Windows..). It also uses as much RAM as windows does, since it's just windows running instead of OS X.

9400M in bootcamp on up to Standard maps is tolerable, with minimum graphic settings.
 
Definitely not. I have a better MBP (15" MBP, 2010 core i5 Nvidia 330M) than you and as soon as I get past turn ~30 on even a Standard map, I am forced to play in Strategic Mode. Even with graphics turned all the way low and Fog of War completely disabled.

You'll do okish if you play in BootCamp, though.

What?! I have the same specs as the OP, in fact less-so as I only have 2Gb memory, yet I am able to quite happily play this game, and NEVER in strategic view! My last game went to 550 turns and the time per turn at the end was about 30s max. I play with mostly low settings, but I have textures on high. I am not playing windowed but I am playing at the lower screen res option (resulting in black bars on the left & right hand sides).

Although a bit clunky at times this game on a mid-2009 MBP with 9400m is eminently playable.

My suggestion, make sure you have no other progs running when you start the game.

Regards.
 
What?! I have the same specs as the OP, in fact less-so as I only have 2Gb memory, yet I am able to quite happily play this game, and NEVER in strategic view! My last game went to 550 turns and the time per turn at the end was about 30s max. I play with mostly low settings, but I have textures on high. I am not playing windowed but I am playing at the lower screen res option (resulting in black bars on the left & right hand sides).

Although a bit clunky at times this game on a mid-2009 MBP with 9400m is eminently playable.

My suggestion, make sure you have no other progs running when you start the game.

Regards.



What map size are you playing? Also you say you're playing at lower screen res, which makes a difference as well.
 
Well, I played through a Huge map on "Earth" and I was able to play all the way through. I still had to use Strategic most of the time to keep it going a little faster, though it was still really slow especially at the end. So I know I could still play Huge maps on my computer luckily, but I'm not chancing making the setting any higher.

Be that as it may, I'm definitely now going to get another computer and upgrade. I was already planning on it soon-ish anyway, this just makes me want to do it now. I think with a better processor, I'd probably play through games more than twice as fast without waiting around between turns! :lol: And I can only imagine how much prettier this game is going to be once I can turn the settings up...

So does anyone here play Civ V with the newest Mac Minis or iMacs? How does it run for you? I want to know what kind of performance to except. I'd hate to hope for high settings and still not be able to use them after getting a brand new computer.

Boot camp takes as much HDD as you give it. (I give it 80 GB or so.. depends on how much you will install in Windows..). It also uses as much RAM as windows does, since it's just windows running instead of OS X.

9400M in bootcamp on up to Standard maps is tolerable, with minimum graphic settings.

Only up to Standard size and minimum graphics? For all the trouble I'd have to go through to install bootcamp and windows, that result wouldn't be worth it then. I can already play on low settings and standard size without boot camp, just slowly.

So I'm going to upgrade to a newer machine.

What?! I have the same specs as the OP, in fact less-so as I only have 2Gb memory, yet I am able to quite happily play this game, and NEVER in strategic view! My last game went to 550 turns and the time per turn at the end was about 30s max. I play with mostly low settings, but I have textures on high. I am not playing windowed but I am playing at the lower screen res option (resulting in black bars on the left & right hand sides).

Although a bit clunky at times this game on a mid-2009 MBP with 9400m is eminently playable.

My suggestion, make sure you have no other progs running when you start the game.

Regards.

Yes, everyone's computers end up being different, but I can still play the game through on my MBP, it's just slow and gets even slower in later turns. I choose strategic to make it go a little faster, but I could play it on regular view if I wanted to wait around longer. All my settings are still on low/minimum though, no high textures for me.
 
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