My proposal on how to bring more Civilizations into the Civilization Franchise.

[Duke William of Normandy]

So, basically, the proposal I have and the premise of this thread will be based on two ideas:

1. Make it so that if a Civilization isn't in a game, it can appear as a City-State. For example, if I have Gathering Storm, but I don't have Sweden in that game, there is a chance that either Bologna or Stockholm will appear as a City-State.
2. Make it an option so that Civilizations that basically inhabited the same space don't appear in the same game. For example, if the Songhai* are in the game, I can choose to make it so that Mali isn't in that game, and if Kievan Rus'* is in the game, Russia won't appear.

*These aren't actually in the game, I'm just providing a hypothetical here.

So basically, the idea behind this theory is that if we do this, we could potentially bring more Civilizations and City-States without the oddity of Korea being both a Civilization and a City-State in the same game, and Songhai and Mali being in the same game. What are your thoughts on this, dear reader?

 

[Ryansinbela]

I think me and Boris Gudenuf had similar ideas

Civs starting out as city states

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

I like the idea in theory but I can also see a couple of problems.

The main is one is I like how Civ 6 started to make each city-state more unique by giving them each different bonuses when you are allied with them.

I feel if we went with this approach then some city-states would lose some of the uniqueness they had.

The other point is what defines as civs occupying the same space? Portugal and Spain? Khmer and Siam? Austria and Hungary? Cree and Canada?

 

[Henri Christophe]

cool idea, but i don't feel as it can bring more civilizations to the game, I can count a lot of civilization who is missing in this game who doesn't share space with other civilization on this game and still underrepresented.

but I like the ideia of civs ins't in my game stilll come as city-state.

 

[The googles do nothing]

I'm going to take a guess at one possible implementation of what I think OP is suggesting...

1. You can have America in the game as a full fledged civ. Your abilities are All Diplomatic policy slots in the current government are converted to Wildcard slots. +1 Diplomatic favor per turn for each Wildcard slot in the current government.
2. You can have New York and Los Angeles in the game as city states. The New York suzerain bonus is Your abilities are All Diplomatic policy slots in the current government are converted to Wildcard slots, and the Los Angeles suzerain bonus is +1 diplomatic per turn for each Wildcard slot in the current government.

The policy slot sub ability would probably have to be modified as it would be a pain to adjust as you gain and loose it. I just pickedNew York and Los Angeles because they are the two largest cities.

 

[Xheeva]

If they release 10 more Civilization 6 DLCs I would buy them all. I want more civilizations in the game and if possible game elements that existed in previous versions of the franchise implemented in 6.

 

[9gkj548hkm20vk79dj689bnj4]

I had the idea that one civ could "change into" another civ.
- Like the Holy Roman empire turning into either Germany or Austria later in the game.
- Or as mentioned, Mali into Songhai.
- Or Rome can become Byzantium if it founds a religion.
- Or since some people really hated the inclusion of Canada and Australia, perhaps if England founds a city on a new continent, that then could become Canada or Australia.
This would give you the advantage of retaining the unique abilities of both civilizations.
But if a player started with HRE, no one else would be permitted to play as its offshoots.

I don't understand how this necessarily introduces MORE civilizations, however. Maybe I misunderstand.

 

[PhoenicianGold]

All this seems to solve is make more city-states. I don't think this increases the end result of civs, each of which require far more resources to produce than a single city-state.

Which, I wouldn't be opposed to, but I don't see this approach bringing more civs into the franchise. It doesn't really open up design resources; even if the developers could make Russia and Kievan Rus' or Mali and Songhai, they can only do so much and will still likely fall back to only having one major civ per region. Hell, they still haven't even managed to fill some major map-gaps with their current resources; I don't know why they would start doubling up now when some regions still have nothing.