So I play CIV V with some friends occasionally and it's quite odd for MP, we generally don't go military or try to conquer anyone, it's basically just a science race to the end. There is one person who always seems to get ahead early, has insane population and gets all the best wonders *really* quickly, he does this essentially every single game no matter the start they get and I've only ever managed to come close when I've got an insane starting area and even then it's hard to keep ahead/up. Need some build orders/strategies/tech tree orders to basically win almost every time to knock them down a peg, non-military so I can beat them at their own game. I've tried the typical scout opening/4 city turn 100 NC stuff but I never seem to be able to keep up. I can pretty much use any civ because they only ever use Babylon or Egypt. Thanks.