New Expansion 1025 BC

[blackheart]

Since we are running out of space to expand I've designed a proposal to maximize our current expandable land. If we were to build cities in places 1 & 2 we could cut the continent in half, making us the masters. Location 3 guarantees us a stronghold jutting into Zulu territory.

 

[Stuck_as_a_Mac]

I like spots 1 and 3. 2 seems to have a little too much jungle, despiute the fact it gets us the silks. If anything, 1 could be moved over to get the iron (on expansion) to keep it from Rome, seeing as Odawara will not get that Iron.

SaaM

 

[blackheart]

I just noticed i misspelled expansion . I agree 2 could be moved if needed, but to one of the other hills.

 

[invy]

I think position 1 needs to be more west or southwest.
Settling on position 1 on the screenshot will lose 3 grassland tiles inward our territory. We lose 2 tiles near river (2 grasslands with forest - its easy to notice) and a tile 4 moves south of position 1. If we could move city only 1 tile to W we would catch them all.
Its too much space to waste. Notice that there is no enough space to squeeze there another city which might use those tiles.

Position 2 seems ok. We can't avoid jungle.

Position 3 could be great place to settle but we need to explore the area. Pos 3 will have few desert tiles if we settle right at the place. And there could be some goodies south in unexplored area or at least grasslands.

Conclusion : pos 1 to move W or S, pos 2 is ok, pos 3 needs exploration.

Good job blackheart!

 

[BCLG100]

the problem with 3 may be that it will need a lot of culture unless were going to go to war with the Zulu's soon as it will be incased pretty much in a cirle AND right next to the capital.

 

[Rik Meleet]

I just noticed i misspelled expansion . I agree 2 could be moved if needed, but to one of the other hills.

Did you really ?

 

[blackheart]

I think position 1 needs to be more west or southwest.
Settling on position 1 on the screenshot will lose 3 grassland tiles inward our territory. We lose 2 tiles near river (2 grasslands with forest - its easy to notice) and a tile 4 moves south of position 1. If we could move city only 1 tile to W we would catch them all.
Its too much space to waste. Notice that there is no enough space to squeeze there another city which might use those tiles.

Position 2 seems ok. We can't avoid jungle.

Position 3 could be great place to settle but we need to explore the area. Pos 3 will have few desert tiles if we settle right at the place. And there could be some goodies south in unexplored area or at least grasslands.

Conclusion : pos 1 to move W or S, pos 2 is ok, pos 3 needs exploration.

Good job blackheart!

Thanks. Moving #1
W or SW would impede on the core tiles of our other cities, so I would rather put those 2 grassland tiles to waste than lose tiles for 3 cities overall.

#3 is meant as a jumping stone into the northern territories. Since we weren't quick enough to expand there this may be our last hope to set up a base there for future excursions.

 

[Nobody]

i like site one, but site two would be better if moved one square towards the whales

 

[blackheart]

i like site one, but site two would be better if moved one square towards the whales

While the whales are a good resource to have, moving towards them would basically give the city more water tiles, which isn't a good thing where there are hills and (potential) grassland to be had.

 

[Sir Donald III]

Blackheart, you have 2 out of 3 matches! (Sites 2 and 3.) Admittedly, they were alternate sites, but glad to see you're at least on the same page. I'll add #1 to the upcomming poll, as well as my original idea for that (2 Gold) site. (It's West, but my concern is not over Grassland waste, but River Defense Bonus.)

 

[superpelon]

I say we settle all three. Good spots you picked out blackheart.

3 first: checks zulu expansion into the fertile floodplains of the north.

2 next: silks and cuts continent in half.

1 last: links up cites, gets gold and good border continuity

In that order.

 

[Sir Donald III]

Multiple Polls in the Poll Forum.

Blackheart's Ideas correspond to 1(N), 2(E), and 4 (except E) in the Map in the "Two settlers" poll.

 

[RegentMan]

Shaka probably has site three on his mind too, so a city there would push the Zulus into an almost certain war with us. Invy is correct in saying that site one wastes too many tiles, and if we change number one, we'll need to change number two. But I like one's and two's general placements.

 

[blackheart]

Shaka probably has site three on his mind too, so a city there would push the Zulus into an almost certain war with us. Invy is correct in saying that site one wastes too many tiles, and if we change number one, we'll need to change number two. But I like one's and two's general placements.

I would rather waste a few tiles with #1 than take away tiles from the other cities.