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New full civ: Javanese

CivArmy s. 1994

CivArmy s. 1994

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These r the stuff that I need :) , in case someone knows where I can find them, please, post ;) :
- image reference of the leader or of generic Javanese people
- better city list, corrections in mine or more cities. the same for leaders list (untill 5 for each type)
- there is any Javanese unit or similar ready in these boarders? The "Kris" is a unit which fought against the Europeans in the Colonial Time and uses daggers and swords.
- feedback for the below stuff

When I finish this civ I can start export the artworks of this civ + Peru + Etruscans + Phoenicians and place these 4 new civis for download in CFC :goodjob:

Javanese012.jpg


Civilization: Javanese
Bonuses: Religious and Industrious
Title and leader: Rajadhiraja Hayam Wuruk
Best/shunned government: Monarchy and Republic
Agression: 02 (low)
Cultural group: Asiatic
Noun: Javanese
Adjective: Javanese
Colors: Yellow (Egypt) and Grey (India)
UU: Kris
Civilopedia entry: RACE_JAVANESE

Cities:
Trowulan
Watugaluh
Jombang
Demak
Kediri (Jakarta)
Palembang
Pajang
Prambanan
Borobudur
Sewu
Tingkir
Denpasar
Singarapa
Ubud
Kuta
Sanur
Jimbaran
Seminyak
Nusa Dua
Serang
Semarang
Surabaya
Yogyakarta
Solo
Bandung
Padang
Medan
Malang
Makassar
Pekalongan
Surakarta
Kediri
Telanaipura
Pakanbaru
Pematangsiantar
Jember
Tanjungkarang
Banjarmasin
Manado
Samarinda
Balikpapan
Palu
Ambon
Jayapura

Military leaders:
Wali Songo
Airlangga
Raden Patah
Pemanahan
Hadiwijoyo

Scientific ones:
Mpu Sindok
Mpu Tantular
Dharmawangsa
Gajah Mada
Trenggono

Civilopedia:


Kris, the UU:
They replace Swordsman, has one extra offensive point, one extra defensive point and cost 10 shiels more.
 
I think an Indonesian civ would be good enough, I dont think its been made....
 
EuropeanFury said:
I've never even heard of these guys :rolleyes:
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That says more of you than of anything else.

Isn't kris properly the name of the dagger, not the wielder? In any case, you'll want it to replace Medieval Infantry too.
 
Or Starbuckians
 
Cool posts, well, I did a little mistake in 1st post, the Kris uses "dagger" and not "jagger". TLC, I think this weapon is closer of the Swordsman then Medieval Infantry, but I wouldn't have any problem to change the replaced unit ;)
BTW friends, if someones knows about leaders and cities list, please, gimme feedback if the list that I did is good, correct, where the errors r, addictions... :)
 
Sword_Of_Geddon said:
Actually I think its "Keris" although I'm not completely sure. Also, Rita Poon did this guy:
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Hayam Wuruk
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This leader is leading Malaysa and has a Javanese name, I think Rita did a generic leader for this region and after this coice the civ and the leader name, not sure.
 
Some stuff on Java:

With the establishment of Jakarta as the capital, and the Javanese roots of the majority of Indonesian political figures, the island remains political and economically dominant over the rest of the country. While much of rural Java is very poor, the urban areas of Java are among the wealthiest, most highly developed regions in the country. Both presidents Sukarno and Suharto, who together ruled for the first forty-nine years of independence, were from Java.

This political dominance has resulted in resentment on the part of some residents of other islands. The respected Indonesian author Pramoedya Ananta Toer once recommended that the Indonesian capital be moved outside the island of Java in order to free the Indonesian nationalist movement of its Java-centric character.


Maybe either President Sukarno or Suharto would make a decent leader for this civ? :confused:

You can find info on them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukarno http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suharto
 
Sword_Of_Geddon said:
Some stuff on Java:

With the establishment of Jakarta as the capital, and the Javanese roots of the majority of Indonesian political figures, the island remains political and economically dominant over the rest of the country. While much of rural Java is very poor, the urban areas of Java are among the wealthiest, most highly developed regions in the country. Both presidents Sukarno and Suharto, who together ruled for the first forty-nine years of independence, were from Java.

This political dominance has resulted in resentment on the part of some residents of other islands. The respected Indonesian author Pramoedya Ananta Toer once recommended that the Indonesian capital be moved outside the island of Java in order to free the Indonesian nationalist movement of its Java-centric character.


Maybe either President Sukarno or Suharto would make a decent leader for this civ? :confused:

You can find info on them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukarno http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suharto
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Thanks for the infos :goodjob: , but the civ is of Javanese, not Indonesia (that we already have one leaded by a female leader) and Suharto was the Hitler of Indonesia, not a President. Sukarno I don't know. This bloody dictador stolen US$ 40 bi :eek: from Indonesian wealth and lead massacres against the population of some parts of this nation.
 
Background on Sukarno(I didn't know anything on this guy either so I looked it up) The son of a Javanese nobleman and his Balinese wife from Buleleng regency, Sukarno was born in Surabaya (although several sources said he was born in Blitar, East Java) in the Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia). He was admitted into a Dutch-run school as a child. When his father sent him to Surabaya in 1916 to attend a secondary school, he met Tjokroaminoto, a future nationalist. In 1921 he began to study at the Technische Hoogeschool in Bandung.

Sukarno was fluent in several languages, especially Dutch. He once remarked that when he was studying in Surabaya, he often sat behind the screen in movie theaters reading the Dutch subtitles in reverse, because he could not afford the regular front seating's price.

Sukarno became a leader of an Indonesian independence movement party, Partai Nasional Indonesia when it was founded in 1927. He also promoted his belief that Japan would commence a war against the imperialist Western powers and that Java could then gain its independence with Japan's aid. He was arrested in 1929 by Dutch colonial authorities and sentenced to two years in prison. By the time he was released, he had become a popular hero. In the 1930s he was again arrested several times and was in jail when Japan occupied the archipelago in 1942.

During World War II, indigenous forces across both Sumatra and Java aided the Japanese against the Dutch, but would not cooperate in the supply of the aviation fuel which was essential for the Japanese war effort. Desperate for local support in supplying the volatile cargo, Japan now brought Sukarno back to Jakarta.

Sukarno refused to ever talk about his actions during the war. However, several historians noted that he helped the Japanese in obtaining its aviation fuel as well as Romusha (volunteer work units) and Peta and Heiho (Javanese volunteer army troops) by use of Sukarno's speech broadcast on the Japanese radio and loud speaker networks across Java. By mid-1945 these units numbered around two million, and were preparing to defeat any Allied forces sent to re-take Java.

On November 10, 1943 Sukarno was decorated by the Emperor of Japan in Tokyo. He also became head of Badan Penyelidik Usaha Persiapan Kemerdekaan Indonesia (BPUPKI), the Japanese-organized committee through which Indonesian independence was later gained.

Following the Japanese surrender, Sukarno, Mohammad Hatta, and Radjiman Wediodiningrat were summoned by Marshal Terauchi, Commander-in-Chief of Japan's Southern Expeditionary Forces in Saigon. Sukarno initially hesitated in declaring Indonesia's independence. He and Mohammad Hatta were kidnapped by Indonesian youth groups to Rengasdengklok, west of Jakarta. Finally Sukarno and Mohammad Hatta declared the Republic of Indonesia in August 17, 1945.

Sukarno's vision for the 1945 Indonesian constitution comprised the Panca Sila. (Sanskrit - five pillars). Sukarno's political philosophy was guided by (in no particular order) elements of Marxism, nationalism and Islam. This is reflected in the Panca Sila, in the order in which he originally espoused them in a speech on June 1, 19451:

Nationalism (as in national unity)
Internationalism (one nation sovereign amongst equals)
Representative Democracy (all significant groups represented)
Social Justice (Marxist influenced)
Belief in God (with a secular government however)
The Indonesian parliament, founded on the basis of this original (and subsequent revised) constitutions, proved all but ungovernable. This was due to irreconcilable differences between various social, political, religious and ethnic factions2.

Sukarno's government initially refused to form a national army, for fear of antagonizing the Allied forces and their doubt in whether they will be able to form an adequate military apparatus. The various militia groups at that time were encouraged to join the BKR -- Badan Keamanan Rakyat (The People's Security Organization) -- itself a subordinate of the "War Victims Assistance Organization". It was only in October 1945 that the BKR was reformed into the TKR -- Tentara Kemanan Rakyat (The People's Security Army) in response to increasing Dutch presence in Indonesia. In the ensuing chaos between various factions and Dutch attempts to re-establish colonial control, Dutch troops captured Sukarno in December 1948, but were forced to release him after the ceasefire. He returned to Jakarta in December 28, 1949.

Sukarno's government was not universally accepted in Indonesia. Indeed, many factions and regions attempted to separate themselves from his govenment, and there were several internal conflicts even during the period of armed insurgency against the Dutch. One such example is the Leftist-backed seccessionist attempt by elements of the military in Madiun, East Java in 1948, in which many accused supporters of the separatists were allegedly executed.

There were further attempts of military coups against Sukarno in 1956, including the well-publicized separatist movement in Sulawesi supported by the CIA, during which conflict an American aviator operating in support of the separatists was shot down and captured.

In an effort to restore order, Sukarno established what he called guided democracy, in which he wielded progressively more executive powers, whilst maintaining a multiparty parliament.

You can read more on Wikipedia. It seems he started off as a ok guy but gradual drifted towards the dark side and eventually became a dictator as time went on(sounds like the plot of the Star Wars prequels.. :lol: ). This pathed the way for one of his generals(the Hitler of Indonesia) to overthrow Sukarno and place himself in charge.

Suharto then organized anti-communist purges(and outright genocide) which may have been actually launched by the US government itself.... :(

An official CIA report called the purge "one of the worst mass murders of the 20th century."2 American diplomats 25 years later revealed that they had compiled lists of Indonesian "communist operatives" and had turned over as many as 5,000 names to the Indonesian military. Robert Martens, former member of the US political embassy in Jakarta said in 1990: "It really was a big help to the army. They probably killed a lot of people, and I probably have a lot of blood on my hands, but that's not all bad. There's a time when you have to strike hard at a decisive moment." Howard Fenderspiel, the Indonesia expert at the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research in 1965: "No one cared, as long as they were communists, that they were being butchered. No one was getting very worked up about it"3
 
Looking good!

Naming the Javanese leader Hayam Wuruk was my suggestion. Hayam Wuruk was the king of a powerful medieval Javanese empire. Rita Poon's leader is a Malay leader, thus Hayam Wuruk is a bit misnamed IMHO. But in the end the name isn't that crucial. Rita Poon has done a Malay leader, and CivArmy is doing a Javanese leader, that's the most important. If you don't want to have the Javanese leader called Hayam Wuruk, rename it. You can call him Donald Duck or whatever else you want, as long as CivArmy provides the artwork.

And for all those who can't tell apart Javanese and Japanese, of course this leader can also be used for a Indonesian civ, as Java is the mainland of Indonesia. The question is if you want to put emphasis on the medieval or modern era.

About the LH: I would use pictures of any Indonesians as a reference, because a majority of Indonesians are ethnically Javanese. Maybe this reference is a bit unusual, but here's a picture of the Indonesian Badminton national team:
Indonesia.Team6-ThomasCupFinals2002.jpg


And finally, I have been using this as a combined Javanese / Indonesian city list:

Jakarta
Semarang
Bandung
Padang
Surabaya
Medan
Malang
Palembang
Makassar
Denpasar
Cirebon
Pekalongan
Surakarta
Kediri
Telanaipura
Pakanbaru
Pematangsiantar
Yogyakarta
Jember
Tanjungkarang
Banjarmasin
Manado
Samarinda
Balikpapan
Palu
Ambon
Jayapura
 
Aion, cool city list :goodjob: , I'll add the missing cities in my list using yours ;) Trowulan was the capital of Majapahit Kingdom of Java and the next cities were all Javanese cities of this same kindgom of the next ones (or others Kingdoms of Java), the Indonesian cities lies in the final of the list ;)
For LH I used a mix of Indian and Asiatic (China mainly) stuff, your reference is good, looking the players we can see people closer of Chinese and other closer of Polynesian or Indians, so, I think my LH is good how it is. Maybe I could change a little the up lips :)
 
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