Originally posted by dojoboy
Was he talking about the patch or editor? Check his last post in this thread. It implies sooner than two weeks which would be three weeks from when he posted. Unless, there was a problem w/ the "final candidate" patch.
Hi,
He was talking about the patch. Here is the thread:
In article <bradman-898535.16132722042002@news-austin.austin.rr.com>,
Brad Oliver <bradman@pobox.com.AM_SPAY> wrote:
>In article <uc8uq9r9l76fad@corp.supernews.com>,
>
mhayden@rawbw.com (Michael Hayden) wrote:
>
>> Hey Brad, got an ETA on the 1.21 patch?
>
>No, I don't. I'm still waiting to get the new code so I can't begin to
>guess.
Okay, now I'm getting miffed. I appreciate that Brad is busy finishing
'SW: Galactic Battlegrounds', but MacSoft still has an obligation to
support Civ3. The PC 1.21 patch has been out for almost a month. Please
give us -some- sort of progress report.
In article <ue23jgrkof9pa1@corp.supernews.com>,
mhayden@rawbw.com (Michael Hayden) wrote:
> Okay, now I'm getting miffed. I appreciate that Brad is busy finishing
> 'SW: Galactic Battlegrounds', but MacSoft still has an obligation to
> support Civ3. The PC 1.21 patch has been out for almost a month. Please
> give us -some- sort of progress report.
I've been working on it about full time for 2 weeks now (SW:GB is taking
up close to zero of my time now that it's in approvals), barring a week
off for WWDC. My obligation ended when Civ3 shipped, even if MacSoft's
didn't, so I'm doing it for free for them. If you don't like my pace,
then all I can suggest is wait a bit longer. I'm spending some extra
time trying to reproduce and fix the bugs that have been reported to me
since 1.17g since I'm not anxious to work on it again.
I'm quite tired of doing free patches for Civ3 (this marks my third one
now), so enjoy it when it arrives. If you're miffed at having to wait a
whole month, then imagine how miffed I am at spending a whole month
working on it, only to be greeted with posts like yours. I can think of
a few things I can do to prevent that from happening in the future. ;-)
--
Brad Oliver
bradman@pobox.com.AM_SPAY
Brad Oliver <bradman@pobox.com.AM_SPAY> wrote:
> My obligation ended when Civ3 shipped, even if MacSoft's
> didn't, so I'm doing it for free for them.
And why aren't you holding them up for some cash? It seem that you're
in a very good bargaining position for some "hey, I gotta eat" money...
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cirby@cfl.rr.com
I'll sleep when I'm dead.
In article <cirby-679A8A.12103014052002@newsr2.tampabay.rr.com>,
Chad Irby <cirby@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> > My obligation ended when Civ3 shipped, even if MacSoft's
> > didn't, so I'm doing it for free for them.
>
> And why aren't you holding them up for some cash? It seem that you're
> in a very good bargaining position for some "hey, I gotta eat" money...
I don't gotta eat - I've got other paying projects. To be frank, I don't
care about it that much. If I _wanted_ to do this patch, and I _needed_
money, it would be different.
--
Brad Oliver
bradman@pobox.com.AM_SPAY
In article <bradman-53BE08.10175914052002@newsr2.texas.rr.com>,
Brad Oliver <bradman@pobox.com.AM_SPAY> wrote:
[deletia]
First, if you're not getting paid for the patch, that's between you and
MacSoft. I would never ask anyone to work for free, so don't smack -me-
with that particular guilt trip. But since it's out there now, thank you
for your extra work.
Second, I have no problem with waiting, so long as I know progress is
being made. I'd already asked twice before (nicely, I might add) and
essentially got nothing, so naturally I was getting anxious. Now that
you've spoken up, I'm happy as a clam.
Long story short, don't take it so personally.
Thanks again.
In article <ue2fmk9ulktf5e@corp.supernews.com>,
mhayden@rawbw.com (Michael Hayden) wrote:
> First, if you're not getting paid for the patch, that's between you and
> MacSoft. I would never ask anyone to work for free, so don't smack -me-
> with that particular guilt trip.
My apologies. Since you mentioned me by name (and brought up
Battlegrounds, which is totally unrelated), I assumed you wanted a
detailed reply from me. Obviously the best people to ask are MacSoft,
but they rarely post here, which I'm sure you've noticed by now.
> Second, I have no problem with waiting, so long as I know progress is
> being made. I'd already asked twice before (nicely, I might add) and
> essentially got nothing, so naturally I was getting anxious.
> Long story short, don't take it so personally.
I don't take it personally, but I want to emphasize this point: if you
feel that a few weeks of no updates is enough to get "miffed" over, then
continuing to post here about it is not going to get you very much
sympathy from me. In fact, I would characterize it as an extreme lack of
sympathy. ;-) I hope that's clear so the next time a week or two goes by
without a update from me on something, you'll understand why I don't
jump out of my chair to reply.
--
Brad Oliver
bradman@pobox.com.AM_SPAY
That's it. You can see for yourself what he has to say. I hope this helps.