NEW RESOURCE ICON: Bamboo

[Dom Pedro II]

Hey, guys! Here's a new resource icon for ya... Bamboo. One of the most important materials in Asian history for building materials, weapons, and such.

Bamboo Resource Icon

Resources.pcx

Actually, you can't really tell now that's been shrunk down for use in civ, but it was based off of this rendering I made...

If anybody thinks they can do a better job with this pic, you're more than welcome to try...

 

[Arne]

Ehem... are you sure this IS a ressource? I missed the ingame ressource.pcx

 

[Dom Pedro II]

Sorry, you're absolutely right... I forgot that I didn't make a separate icon for the in-game resource, I only added to my resources.pcx. I thought the bamboo.pcx was it.

Just a moment... I'll upload it.

 

[Arne]

Thanks. Bu it looked a little unclear on the map, don't you think so?

I once had converted bamboo from another game... i guess it was AoK. I will going now and looking for it. It was no superb quality, but should work.

 

[Arne]

Here I am again. And here is a "preview" from my converted bamboo. Don't know if you like it and I don't know if it works: it looks very simlar to trees. However, if it is okay, I could separate the bamboo from ressources and send it to you or post it here.

 

[Dom Pedro II]

Yeah, it looks nice!

 

[Louis XXIV]

Looks like it could be a terrain type (maybe for a scenario)

Its ashame you can't add terrain types.

Looks good, though

 

[Ozymandias]

Originally posted by Louis XXIV
Looks like it could be a terrain type (maybe for a scenario)

Ah, but it makes a much better strategic resource (Dom Pedro and I were discussing this in another venue) as this humble plant goes a long way towards explaining certain crucial differences between military and naval innovations East & West.

2 examples:

1. Bamboo was/is a natural firearms tube -- and the first Chinese firearms (8th century CE IIRC) did indeed utilize bamboo tubes.

2. Zheng-he's famous 15th century junks were literally ten times
the mass of their contemporary, ~2,000 ton vs. ~200 ton, Portugese caravels -- it has been reasonably / academically suggested that exposure to the internal structure of bamboo led to the interiors of the hulls of Chinese junks being compartmentalized -- and therefore made more seaworthy -- long before Europeans gave this approach to naval architecture a try.

So, in my own humble mods, bamboo is necessary for both the earliest possible firearms (Hwacha or however it's spelled...) as well as both the common and gigantic ("treasure") junk.

Best,

Oz

P.S. -- Oh, and DP ... Nice work!

-O.

 

[Eastern Knight]

wow, that was a good idea, they should also replace the gems with diamonds, does anyone think this is a good idea?

 

[Quasar1011]

Originally posted by Eastern Knight
wow, that was a good idea, they should also replace the gems with diamonds, does anyone think this is a good idea?

Yes, I do. I have changed gems to diamonds in my mods, and added rubies. So there are 2 kinds of precious stones.

I had also already added timber to my mod, but perhaps I can use both timber and bamboo, and sort their appearance due to climate (bamboo in jungle, timber elsewhere).

 

[Eastern Knight]

timber was a good idea, how about silver?

 

[Ozymandias]

Originally posted by Eastern Knight
timber was a good idea, how about silver?

Why not go for the gusto? -- Require both copper and tin in order to make bronze.

... And find an English word to rhyme with "orange".

-Oz

 

[Eastern Knight]

orange schmorange, that rhymes

 

[Quasar1011]

Originally posted by Eastern Knight
timber was a good idea, how about silver?

Been there, done that.

Made silver plentiful in my mod. It had better be, can't build marketplaces without silver.

Originally posted by ozymandias
Why not go for the gusto? -- Require both copper and tin in order to make bronze.

Been there, done that.

Made copper and tin plentiful in my mod. They had better be, can't build barracks without bronze (copper + tin).

 

[Arne]

Timber? Silver? Bronze? Tin? How about Bamboo?

Dom PedroII, here the is the small pcx file.

 

[Eastern Knight]

bamboo was a good idea

 

[Quasar1011]

I am having too much trouble getting the luxuries to work right now, in my mod. I will keep timber the way it is. But eventually I would like to use this bamboo graphic in the jungle tiles. I also think C3C will have swamp tiles; bamboo grows in swamps, does it not?

 

[Eastern Knight]

not all bamboo grow in swamps

 

[Ozymandias]

Originally posted by Quasar1011
I also think C3C will have swamp tiles; bamboo grows in swamps, does it not?

Let's rephrase the question IIRC the staple diet of pandas is bamboo; do pandas live in swamps?

-- Due to the nature of the cultivation process (i.e., flooded fields, typically in coastal regions) one "natural" resource for swamps could very well be rice.

Everything you ever and never wanted to know about bamboo:

http://www.americanbamboo.org/

From one of their pages:

"Bamboo is just grass, but it varies in height from dwarf, one foot (30 cm) plants to giant timber bamboos that can grow to over 100 feet (40 m). It grows in a lot of different climates, from jungles to high on mountainsides. Bamboos are further classified by the types of roots they have. Some, called runners, spread exuberantly, and others are classified as clumpers, which slowly expands from the original planting. There are also varieties of root systems that are a mixture of these types. Generally, the tropical bamboos tend to be clumpers and the temperate bamboos tend to be runners."

Best,

Oz

 

[ptclouds]

Thank you! Thank YOU! THANK YOU!

My Bamboo icon was really just..****e

http://www.mrbamboo.com

We discovered, just recently in the drought, that Kangaroos developed a taste for bamboo shoots. We no no worry about pandas. Does anyone have an icon for Kangaroo? Are there any units, such as the Kangaroo Rider (instead of Horseman)? Could be fun to see the animations..

Bamboo rarely grows in swamps. There are, last count, about 1,500 types. About half of which grow in South America.

Now.

Is it a luxury, or a strategic resource? Or both?

I have rice on flood plains, salt in the desert. And camels, of course. And diamonds in the mountains for building my spaceship.

Arrf. I spend more times reading the posts here than I do playing the game.

Ciao