New Scenario Dutch recapture Brielle

[p3fbahamut]

I am enjoying the scenario's in Civ VI and have a suggestion (as mentioned above) for a new DLC.

A new civilization The Netherlands lead by William the Silent.
Unique unit sea beggar (see Civ V)
Unique building windmill

Scenrio : Recapture of Brielle.

Command a fleet of sea beggars and recapture Brielle.

History behind this scenario :

Philips II was king of Spain and lord of the low countries. He was catholic where the Dutch were mainly protestant (calvinist) This lead to troubles and Philip blamed the Netherlands.

Due to the riots Philip send an army under the leadership of the duke of Alva to bring the Netherlands under his command. William the Silent, Prince of Orange fled and started raids from Germany in 1568.

On 1 april 1572 (yes april fool's day) there was a raid of sea beggars on Brielle, capturing it from the Spanish. This was the beginning of the end of the Spanish occupation resulting in the union of Utrecht in 1579.

 

[Leyrann]

Just the capturing of Brielle wouldn't be enough for a scenario imo. The whole 80 Year War would be a different matter however. Then again, the Netherlands would probably do best in some kind of colonization scenario, competing against Spain, Portugal, England and France.

 

[p3fbahamut]

Well mentioning a colonization scenario a tribute to Pirates! springs in mind. Colonization of the carribean with the Netherlands, Spain, France and England where barbarians are replaced with pirates.

And yeah maybe instead of just capturing Brielle it could be freeing the Netherlands. Also including the Spanish Armada for bonus.

 

[SlySlySly]

Well mentioning a colonization scenario a tribute to Pirates! springs in mind. Colonization of the carribean with the Netherlands, Spain, France and England where barbarians are replaced with pirates.

And yeah maybe instead of just capturing Brielle it could be freeing the Netherlands. Also including the Spanish Armada for bonus.

well, with pirates, it get's complicated, you can't just have them as barbarians. Cause they were often sided with a nation and pirate other nations. So maybe you build the privateer ship and it sort of runs itself?

 

[Dirk Hartog]

Well mentioning a colonization scenario a tribute to Pirates! springs in mind. Colonization of the carribean with the Netherlands, Spain, France and England where barbarians are replaced with pirates.

And yeah maybe instead of just capturing Brielle it could be freeing the Netherlands. Also including the Spanish Armada for bonus.

I'd rather see a scenario set in the East Indies rather than the Americas. It could be about the gaining control over the spice trade. (It could be sold as a bundle consisting of the Netherlands, Indonesia, and the scenario)

 

[Leyrann]

I'd rather see a scenario set in the East Indies rather than the Americas. It could be about the gaining control over the spice trade. (It could be sold as a bundle consisting of the Netherlands, Indonesia, and the scenario)

You'd also need Siam and/or Vietnam, I'd say. Then have the Netherlands, France, Portugal, Spain and England try to colonize Indonesia, Siam and Vietnam, with China and Japan (maybe Korea) being some real tough nuts to crack in the north (considering they weren't cracked in real life).

 

[Hrothbern]

The Netherlands were in general not interested in establishing colonies during their Golden Age.

The main centre of power in the Netherlands was not a classic feudal family (who were pre-occupied in traditional feudal land-owning thinking with trade and manufacturing "only" as welcome source of ever-increasing taxes to pay for all the "silly" soaps and conquests of the noble families).
The main power centre of the Dutch Republic were the enterprising merchant families, who recognised that "you needed" some royalty as formal head of state, to stay in diplomatic mainstream, but did not want to pay too much money for such a folly.
("folly": their own words ! The puritan Dutch merchants had deep pockets regarding cost, unless it were invests in profitable enterprises).
This was also one of the reasons that later in 1688 (The Glorious Revolution), the Dutch Stadhouder Willem III, who was not satisfied with the small amount of money the merchants wanted to pay him for a royal court, was very happy to come over to UK as new king (together with Mary Stuart).

The "colony" of South-Africa was only established to get a location halfway the East_Indies for reliable fresh water and food.

The basic trade of the V.O.C, the Dutch East-Indian company and the first public company to issue stock, was:

• Go to India to get opium
• Go from India to China to trade the opium for Silk
• Go from China to Japan to trade Silk for Silver
• Rinse and repeat until enough silver
• Load on last visit to India enough India spices.
• Load on the last visit to China enough Chinese Porcelain (nice valuable ballast, low in the ship)
• Go to the Indonesian archipel and trade silver for spices
• Go back to Holland

The spices were traded within Europe at enormous profit. The market value of the V.O.C was at her heighdays around 7 Trillion $ or ten times the 700 Billion of Apple nowadays. The Dutch V.O.C had twice the amount of ships and 5 times the amount of cargo as the UK East India Company.

For this trade only trading posts were needed. During many centuries the Dutch were the only European nation allowed to trade in Japan. The trading in Indonesia took place with the many independent local leaders.

It is much later in history that Indonesia became a real colony.
After the Dutch lost South-Africa to UK during the Napoleontic occupation, much and much later, they were in the peace treaty compensated with Dutch Guyana, Surinam, a real colony.
A colony in Brasil, founded in 1636 by Johan Maurits, family of the Dutch Royalty, was abandoned in 1654.
The West-Indian Company, for the Caribbean area, never made real profit. Certainly if you deduct from the money that ended up in the pockets of some merchants and plantation owners the tax burden for the Dutch state to keep in govermental control.

All in all: the succes of the Dutch Republic was to do trading only and refrain from colonies.

 

[p3fbahamut]

Woohoo thanks. Looking forward to the pirates! update