New shows thread

civvver

Deity
Joined
Apr 24, 2007
Messages
5,855
AMC is launching a slew of new shows this summer, and the amount of new programming by amazon, netflix, hulu and the cable networks is staggering. Used to be just the over the air networks like ABC, CBS and NBC would come up with this many shows, green lighting 3-4 a season, and they'd often fizzle out after one or two seasons until they struck gold with some new comedy or whatever. But then AMC started something with Mad Men that showed a cable network could have quality original programming and earn real ratings. Breaking Bad followed, and FX launched their own originals like Sons of Anarchy, until we got the show that literally changed the landscape of TV in The Walking Dead. Those numbers were too staggering to ignore and now it seems every channel is trying to have their own originals. Heck I've seen commercials for shows that look interesting on channels I didn't even know existed like Hap and Leonard, which I guess is on Sundance channel, and Spotless on Esquire. I haven't seen either, don't even know where to watch Sundance, but both look pretty good from trailers.

I don't watch any tv live, I do on demand and streaming services exclusively, cus I hate tuning in at a specific time. But I do stay current on a few shows, usually just 1 or 2 a season, like Game of Thrones and the Walking Dead. I'll usually watch it the night after on demand.

That said this summer is CRAZY for me. Last summer I watched AMC's Humans, Turn and Halt and Catch Fire. I don't remember any of them overlapping, or maybe just a few weeks. Then FX's The Strain came out late summer and into fall and so did AMC's Hell on Wheels. Fast forward to this summer, since April I've watched Fear the Walking Dead, then Game of Thrones, and now shows still going on include Turn, Hell on Wheels, and two new ones from AMC Feed the Beast and Preacher, and Halt and Catch Fire and Humans aren't even back yet.


There's really far too much for one person to watch right now, so let's break it down and decide which shows are worth checking out and which should be skipped. For example I still haven't seen Mr. Robot and people rave about this show. Thankfully it's on Amazon prime I believe so I don't have to rush to get to it.


I'd like to limit this to shows in their 1st, 2nd or 3rd season at most. Like The American's is a great show but most people should already know what it is. Similarly Breaking Bad is done, over, if you haven't watched it by now another person raving about it here shouldn't change anything. This is more to get an idea of shows people might not know of still in their infancy. Here's a couple I've watched.




Feed the Beast - It's on AMC. It's about a drug addicted chef who just got out of jail but owes the mob a ton of money for burning down their restaurant he used to work at (motive unknown, maybe just cus he was high at the time), so to pay them back he starts another restaurant and agrees to let them launder money there. Of course he can't start it by himself being an ex con with no money so he drags his childhood friend who is like the greatest sommelier in NYC into it to help him. But the sommelier has no idea of the mobs involvement, hence all the drama.

I thought this show would suck. The commercials for it are very campy imo, one is of David Schwimmer (who plays the sommelier) taking a reservation for Tuesday's at 10pm (the show's air time), while mobsters drag a body out the back door of the restaurant. It's cheesy and the acting is atrocious. But the actual show has a completely different feel. Schwimmer still seems akward at times in what's supposed to be a pretty serious role, but overall he pulls it off and Jim Sturgess who plays the chef is amazing. The tone and pace are all spot on and I think the actors will get there as they play their roles more. I also like the foodie nature of the show even though I think win pairins are cheesy when they talk about hints of sour cherries and aroma of burnt umber or whatever. I've heard they actually make that stuff up irl, who knows really, it's a little weird on the show, but I love watching the cooking, even if it's fake. I love shows like Chopped so a drama that uses gourmet cooking as a backdrop is pretty cool to me. Overall this is a well done show you should check out, it has mass appeal being a drama about cooking and mobsters, it's not an action show or comedy, just interesting.




Preacher - Another one on AMC. I did not know this was based on a comic/graphic novel, but once I figured that out it kind of explained a lot. The show is very stylistic, which makes you do a big ohhhh, cus it looks like something based off a comic.

I also had no clue what it was about. I thought it was another action show about gangsters or something. Man was I wrong. I don't want to give too much away except to say it's about a man, the preacher Jesse who has a bad past. Obviously he was some sort of criminal but we don't know the extent of it, except he knows how to fight really well. He goes back to his home town to continue his father's ministry. His father was killed but again we don't know how or why. And then a whole bunch of supernatural stuff starts happening with this alien entity possessing people, vampires (well just one really) falling out of the sky, and angels showing up. It gets crazy but it's totally awesome. The plot could go anywhere I suppose. The show almost has a noire feel too it but it's set in texas. It's really hard to describe what this show feels like but the shots are incredible. Just recently there was this fight scene where a bad guy punches through an adjoining hotel room, then gets pulled through the wall and the fight continues while the camera pans out and you start viewing the fight from the hole in the other room as it slowly backs up. It's so cenematic it's hard to describe except I was going "wow what a shot" the entire time. It's just good and you should check it out.

The appeal is less broad, even if it's really well done. You have to like fantasy/sci fi and/or action shows. Like if you are a fan of Trueblood you'll probably like this.



Humans - AMC as well. This show premiered last summer. I'm not sure when the second season starts but s1 is on amazon video.

It's set in a time period that is basically the same as ours except that AI exists. These androids called "synths" in the show are made out of some material so they look and feel exactly human. They can have conversations with you or just be your maid. They can be lovers or servants or both, they can babysit your kids or do your taxes, whatever they are programmed to do, and different models do different things better.

But there's a few that seem to have actually gained consciousness, true AI where they think for themselves and have morality and "feel." The other synths don't feel. If you hurt them it's just a programmed response for them to feel the pain and you can erase it later.

There's a whole bunch of characters, the most interesting is a family with a work-aholic, emotionally distant mother, so the father buys a synth to help with all the housework so the mom can have more time to spend with the family. But the synth they purchased starts acting really weird and it starts all sorts of drama.

Then there's a scientist guy who was responsible for creating synths and has some insight into the true AI. And of course there are a bunch of government agents searching for the true AI synths.

In all it's a really interesting show, kind of like I Robot novels. It questions a lot of our own humanity and morality but it's not that deep of course, more just an interesting story line. I'm not really sure what they'll do in s2 to keep it interesting so I worry a little, cus the s1 storyline wrapped up very neatly so we'll see if it stays as good.
 
Mr Robot started very nice (cinematography is very anime-styled, and elegant), yet by the half season it got baned with irrational characters (scandinavian couple) which ultimately ruined the original impression for me.
Not sure how season 2 will be, but unless they have some hidden twist i cannot really see this getting a third season.


Link to video.

Hm, just checked season 2 trailer, and there is no swedish/cis couple... (but it could be a ploy).


Link to video.
 
I only get streaming services so I'm a season behind on many shows, but some of the ones already mentioned are among my favorites. Season 2 of Halt and Catch Fire and season 1 of Mr. Robot are among the best things I've watched lately. AMC has always produced high quality shows (imo, obviously), but I'm almost shocked that Mr. Robot was on USA. Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed a few of their shows (Burn Notice; Covert Affairs; In Plain Sight) but they've developed a style over the years, and this was well outside and beyond their usual zone. Season 1 of Humans was also very good, and I've only just started season 2 of Turn.

Netflix has two shows coming up that are on my radar, Stranger Things later this month and The Get Down in August. I know Netflix content can vary by region or country, but I imagine the material they produce themselves is released everywhere simultaneously.


Link to video.


Link to video.
 
Too many TV shows man. I just can't find the time to get into any of them and it's a bit depressing.
I know what you mean. Some shows I have in my queue and simply haven't around gotten to yet:

Fargo, season 1
Twelve Monkeys, season 1
Penny Dreadful, season 1
Orange is the New Black, seasons 3 & 4
Catastrophe, season 1
Transparent, season 1
Black Mirror, season 1
Continuum, season 4

And that's not even counting the things that will become available before I even finish this list (Luke Cage; season 4 of The Americans), nor the things I might like to rewatch (Twin Peaks; seasons 1 & 2 of Damages).
 
Where can you watch the first season of Fargo without buying it? I didn't see it on amazon or netflix last I looked.

Penny dreadful is showtime right? That's another network I don't really get into just cus it costs more. I watched season one of Ray Donovan using a friend's login and it was sweet, but overall picking between showtime or hbo is a no brainer for hbo. None of the subs seem that expensive on their own but $10 a month for netflix here, $9 for amazon there, $15 for hbo, plus my cable bill and wow I'm paying a lot for tv. My wife will never go internet only though, and I'm not entirely sold on it either since I like to follow a few sports on cable and watch the on demand stuff before it arrives on netflix.

Has anyone checked out vinyl on hbo? It looks sweet and any hbo show is usually amazing.

Also I love the Leftovers on hbo. Season 3 is supposed to be the last season and drop this fall. It's really hard show to explain. Basically a rapture like event happens where 2% or so of the world's population just vanishes. It doesn't sound like much only 2% but everyone is affected by it and super depressed. And there's cults that arise and all sorts of other crazy stuff. The show isn't really about the event, but about how people cope with it and their twisted relationships. In the end I'll bet the event never even gets explained. There's definitely some supernatural trippy stuff in the show but the acting is amazing and it's extremely emotional. There's only been like two shows in recent memory that have made me cry. One was The Door on game of thrones and the other was the last couple episodes of the Leftovers season 2. It's that gripping. YMMV but I love it.

I like vikings too but it's kind of losing me in the third season. It's getting a lot of political plot lines and what seem to be a lot of deus ex machina events, stuff that happens without logic behind it except as means to push the plot forward. Like:

Spoiler :
Athelstan's rediscovery of his faith when the lord visited him as light, and the Floki goes and kills him for it. Seemed to convenient to make Floki more at odds with Ragnar and push the Paris attack forward. Or that guy who showed up and killed Siggy. Made no sense.
 
Where can you watch the first season of Fargo without buying it? I didn't see it on amazon or netflix last I looked.
I use Amazon, Netflix and Hulu and often forget which show is on which. Fargo must be Hulu.

Penny dreadful is showtime right? That's another network I don't really get into just cus it costs more.
I don't pay for Showtime, either. One of my services (Hulu, I think) offers those shows for an extra fee, which I don't feel like paying. But one of the other services recently got season 1. The licensing for shows to these services is all over the map. Everybody's trying to figure out how to manage everything; some networks are locked into contracts they signed years ago; some shows are available a week after they air, a year after they air, or after the current season ends; yadda, yadda, yadda. It's the Wild West right now. (Speaking of which, if you already have HBO, you ought to pencil Westworld into your calendar if you haven't already).

Has anyone checked out vinyl on hbo? It looks sweet and any hbo show is usually amazing.
I'd love to. I'm a fan of Olivia Wilde and of the era the show is set in. I read somewhere that its viewer numbers were awful, though.

I like vikings too but it's kind of losing me in the third season. It's getting a lot of political plot lines and what seem to be a lot of deus ex machina events, stuff that happens without logic behind it except as means to push the plot forward. Like:

Spoiler :
Athelstan's rediscovery of his faith when the lord visited him as light, and the Floki goes and kills him for it. Seemed to convenient to make Floki more at odds with Ragnar and push the Paris attack forward. Or that guy who showed up and killed Siggy. Made no sense.
I'm a big fan of Vikings. It took me a while to warm up to it.

Spoiler :
I'm not sure about Athelstan, but the death of Siggy was a product of real-world events. Jessalyn Gilsig's teenaged son was floundering and she couldn't live in Ireland half the year anymore. As for the scene, I don't think The Wanderer killed her. When she came up for air, she saw Thyri and decided to go to Valhalla with her. I think The Wanderer saw Thyri too, and understood Siggy's choice. I think he would have helped her out of the water if she'd wanted it. As of the end of the 3rd season, The Wanderer's identity hadn't been revealed yet, but he's clearly supernatural. Some people think he might be Odin.
 
Preacher - Another one on AMC. I did not know this was based on a comic/graphic novel, but once I figured that out it kind of explained a lot. The show is very stylistic, which makes you do a big ohhhh, cus it looks like something based off a comic.

Man, I was a big fan of the comic back in the 90s although in hindsight (from a position of increased age and wisdom) many bits of it are problematic. I am hopeful that they may have managed to salvage and adapt the worthy bits (and indeed I am hearing positive noises from others). Will probably check it out once the first season is complete so that I may binge it if good.
 
I use Amazon, Netflix and Hulu and often forget which show is on which. Fargo must be Hulu.
Just to confirm, I double-checked last night, and Fargo is on Hulu.

I haven't even seen any of those other shows but you should make this your #1 priority.
Noted. :)



I watched the first episodes of Penny Dreadful and Twelve Monkeys last night. They're pilots, with a lot of that baggage, but still pretty good.

Twelve Monkeys seems to be a loose retelling of the movie, rather than a sequel, a la Hannibal. I vaguely remember Amanda Schull from Center Stage all those years ago. She isn't bad, but I swear she's as unmemorable a generically attractive blonde as you could imagine. If you put her in a lineup with a bunch of the others who fill that role, I wouldn't be able to tell you who was who.

Penny Dreadful is like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen without the massive amounts of totally sucking. The cast seems pretty good. I don't think I've ever heard Eva Green use an English accent before. It sounded alright, at least to these American ears. It looks like Billie Piper debuts in the episode 2, and Helen McRory shows up eventually.

I'll probably watch Penny Dreadful for a while and put Twelve Monkeys on the back burner.
 
Afaik the first season of Penny Dreadful is said to be pretty week. I only saw 3 eps of it, and gave up, but i might give it another go in the future.
 
Afaik the first season of Penny Dreadful is said to be pretty week. I only saw 3 eps of it, and gave up, but i might give it another go in the future.
I watched the second ep last night. The show is deliberately nutty and I can see how it could strike some people as pretentious or overwrought. It kind of skirts the line for me, but hasn't crossed it yet, so I'm enjoying it. The fey Egyptologist made me laugh out loud a couple of times, and I'm almost certain he was supposed to. :lol: And I didn't see the end of the episode coming from a mile away, which is always a nice change for me.
 
This isn't about new shows, per se, but since it's television-related I figured wth...

The Hollywood Reporter produced a 1-hour roundtable with Regina King, Julianna Margulies, Sarah Paulson, Constance Zimmer, Kirsten Dunst, Kerry Washington and Jennifer Lopez. (I don't think I'm the kind of guy to get starstruck, but if I was in that room I'd probably have a stroke or something.)

Julianna Margulies: "I wasn't even aware that my [bare butt] was sticking out [while filming a scene for The Good Wife]. I apologized to the crew profusely."
Sarah Paulson: "I'm sure they were just fine with it." :lol:

(Vid's a little NSFW, some language.)


Link to video.
 
has kirsten dunst been in anything since like spiderman? she was just meh in the first place imo.

I'm a big fan of Vikings. It took me a while to warm up to it.

Spoiler :
I'm not sure about Athelstan, but the death of Siggy was a product of real-world events. Jessalyn Gilsig's teenaged son was floundering and she couldn't live in Ireland half the year anymore. As for the scene, I don't think The Wanderer killed her. When she came up for air, she saw Thyri and decided to go to Valhalla with her. I think The Wanderer saw Thyri too, and understood Siggy's choice. I think he would have helped her out of the water if she'd wanted it. As of the end of the 3rd season, The Wanderer's identity hadn't been revealed yet, but he's clearly supernatural. Some people think he might be Odin.

Rough having spoiler convos but more vikings spoilers:

Spoiler :
That explains more of her departure, but throwing the wanderer in again seem very convenient from a plot perspective. It was very out of nowhere. I think it may have been to cause an even bigger rift between ragnar and his wife, I don't remember her name. Hopefully they revisit it and explain cus I hate when shows do something like that and then don't.

The athlestan stuff too I feel is just to further flocki plot points like how he curses him and blames him for losing the paris battle. I have like 3 or 4 more episodes in season 3 to go.


Season 3 of Turn is turning out pretty decent. It started slow and weird but the last couple episdoes (I'm on 7 out of 10 now) have picked up the pace and I like it. I just mainly can't stand benedict arnold's character. He's so quick tempered with everything, like a petulant child and it wears on you. He's completely unlikable and impossible to sympathize with, but maybe that's the show's intent.


Marco Polo is also back on netflix for season 2. It's a weird show, but I like it, partly cus I went through a period of obsession with ghengis khan and the mongolian invasions. It has a big of a fantasy element to it like crouching tiger hidden dragon ninja stuff, and I'm sure it's wildly, historically inaccurate, but I still like it.
 
Yep, finished turn last night. Last two episodes were awesome. Would recommend.
 
Turn is one of the shows I'm a full season behind on. Just a few episodes into season 2.

A few episodes in, Stranger Things is one of the best shows I've seen this year. Strongly recommended. Season 1 of Mr. Robot and season 2 of Daredevil both had excellent first halves and then skidded downhill, so hopefully Stranger Things will finish strong.

I finished season 1 of The Strain. It's alright. I'm a vampire nut who will watch almost anything, but this one doesn't ever transcend its genre. If you're a horror devotee it's definitely worth a look, but otherwise I wouldn't bother (Netflix USA has Blade II - watch that instead, if you haven't seen it already).

I've also almost finished season 1 of Penny Dreadful. Episode 5 was a real snoozer and I struggled to get through it. Things picked back up in episode 6.
 
The strain goes even more downhill in season 2 just fyi. I'll watch it just cus, yeah zombies + vampires, but it's honestly quite a stupid show, tons of plot holes, really awful acting.

The Night Of just came out on HBO, only two episodes so far. It's an 8 part mini series and man, it is GOOD. Everything is top notch, the acting, the writing, the pacing, the music, the editing. Really great visuals for a gritty crime drama. And the first episode takes place almost entirely at night but I didn't struggle to see what was happening, unlike a lot of night time movies where they're just too darkly lit.

I can't wait to see how it ends, it could go in a whole bunch of directions. And in (mild) spoliers my thoughts on how it might end:

Spoiler :
I think the biggest shocker would be if Naz actually did it and gains his memory back or was trying to play everyone the entire time and really does remember, but that seems so out there I doubt that's what happened. I thought for a minute it was going to be those two black guys they confronted in front of the house but the way the one was talking as a witness later it doesn't seem likely. I also considered maybe the wounds were self inflicted, cus Andrea said I can't be alone tonight blah blah like she may have been suicidal but pretty hard to stab yourself in the back like that and leave the knife downstairs. So what then?

Most likely outcome seems a third party like a stalker ex who saw Naz go inside, waited for him to pass out and then kills her, framing him. That would be a little predictable though, which isn't horrible, but this show seems to have some twists to it.
 
Turn is one of the shows I'm a full season behind on. Just a few episodes into season 2.

A few episodes in, Stranger Things is one of the best shows I've seen this year. Strongly recommended. Season 1 of Mr. Robot and season 2 of Daredevil both had excellent first halves and then skidded downhill, so hopefully Stranger Things will finish strong.

I finished season 1 of The Strain. It's alright. I'm a vampire nut who will watch almost anything, but this one doesn't ever transcend its genre. If you're a horror devotee it's definitely worth a look, but otherwise I wouldn't bother (Netflix USA has Blade II - watch that instead, if you haven't seen it already).

I've also almost finished season 1 of Penny Dreadful. Episode 5 was a real snoozer and I struggled to get through it. Things picked back up in episode 6.

Re Stranger Things:

-Winona Rider is alive? :wow:

-Opening scene is very dumb, strange given the very next scene would be passable, but the 8 min teaser on Youtube is rather underwhelming. I may try it, but hated the run of the mill opening scene :)


Link to video.

Also: teen protagonists show :shake:
 
Hm. I watched ep 1 of Stranger Things.
Looks like a (very) toned-down version of Jap anime series Elfen Lied.

The arch-scientist-conspiracy guy actor might have been miscast here. Due to his hair he does come across as someone trying to look like a different person anyway :D

Overall... can't say i liked it... :o
 
Back
Top Bottom