New tech : Druidism
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BeBro said:Did those druids also use crosses as symbol? I thought it was Christian only. Just curious....
The celts used "celtic cross" for sure, most of them have been destroyed or "updated" by the christians because they considered that like "pagans" traditions.. In fact, it seems, in my book, that it's more a tradition from celtic jewelry than druids... but I made this for Red Threat and I think it can work...
Perhaps Druisdism could be represented by others things ... I put "Druidism 1" for that reason in my library
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frenchman! You will see it in my Dark Ages scenario!
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The matter is that I named my request "druidism" but, in fact, I need this tech for samething that represents the British Isles Celtic civilization in the Dark Ages, but I don't know what name give it. So, this tech is OK.frenchman said:
Dom Pedro II
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Man, frenchman, you're going to single-handedly finish the Celtic civilization for my mod!! 
Mallek
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Excellent it wil do nicely in my mod. 
Dom Pedro II
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Actually, it's not so much the graphics for techs as it is the ideas.
I've researched a lot of different civilizations, but specific techs and developments don't exactly come leaping out at me... you know? Like there's usually not a lot of names for the things I need.
I've researched a lot of different civilizations, but specific techs and developments don't exactly come leaping out at me... you know? Like there's usually not a lot of names for the things I need.
.... What are you thinking? The Celtic Cross is a Christian symbol.. in it's entirety. The Druids never used it. Trust me, my friends and I dove into Druidism and worshipped it and studied it for quite awhile after coming to the conclusion that religions were b.s. so we just wanted some spiritual environmental entity.
I would recommend having an oak tree symbolize the religion. The oak tree is the most sacred symbol because Druidism focuses on the internal power and sacredness of all plant-life the oak tree being most sacred because the Druids would practically live in them.
When the Romans faced the Druids of Mona Island (off the coast of Wales) in I think what was 200 BCE the Druids were all unarmed, men and women, dressed in black robes, protecting the oak grove behind them. The Romans slaughtered every single person and burned their sacred oak grove. When Christianity spread through the British Isles they had to copy the Romans example and burn oak groves to greatly demoralize the "pagan heathans".
So no Celtic Cross, although it could have possibly existed in pagan Brittania, but the oak tree represents the religion much better, rather than just a weave design.
I would recommend having an oak tree symbolize the religion. The oak tree is the most sacred symbol because Druidism focuses on the internal power and sacredness of all plant-life the oak tree being most sacred because the Druids would practically live in them.
When the Romans faced the Druids of Mona Island (off the coast of Wales) in I think what was 200 BCE the Druids were all unarmed, men and women, dressed in black robes, protecting the oak grove behind them. The Romans slaughtered every single person and burned their sacred oak grove. When Christianity spread through the British Isles they had to copy the Romans example and burn oak groves to greatly demoralize the "pagan heathans".
So no Celtic Cross, although it could have possibly existed in pagan Brittania, but the oak tree represents the religion much better, rather than just a weave design.
Yeah I saw what you said.. I was just kind of telling everybody. I just thought it was rather wrong to have the symbol of the people (Christians) who killed, tortured, and cruely converted the Druids represent their religion (Druidism).
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You are totally right but I think that in our modern minds the celtic cross is associated with celts ... and druids ... even if it's a mistake ... I have found a french website ( not very serious ..) where it's explained that the celtic cross is a true Druid symbol...Mobilize said:
... But I take your suggestion for the oak tree ...
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Mobilize said:
I'm not bashing your choice, but if you were looking for a environmental spiritism don't you have an obvious choice right in your backyard? I would've thought the Cherokee faith would've been the first stop on that spiritual trek.
Heh. You know what's interesting Paulo. They are practically the same thing. That's why. Druidism and the Cherokee religion are practically philosophies. I remember going to Vacation Bible School when I was younger. The teacher was saying how there was no Mother Nature and that God was Father Nature. I was 8 years old at the time and I was outraged, I knocked the bible to the ground and walked out never to return.
Druidism's pantheon recognizes a Mother Nature, Danu, and Cherokee myths describe a similar Mother Nature. The Cherokee people are stuck into Christianity so it was hard for me to learn more information about our pagan religion. I was forced to go with the Christian crowd or be an outcast with the non-Christian Cherokees and I became an outcast, and I'm kind of shunned by some of my own people. Before I was made an outcast I learned about Druidism because they didn't know of what it was and just thought of it as some botanical relationship. That was I could learn more about myself spiritually for about a year before they caught on.
Druidism's pantheon recognizes a Mother Nature, Danu, and Cherokee myths describe a similar Mother Nature. The Cherokee people are stuck into Christianity so it was hard for me to learn more information about our pagan religion. I was forced to go with the Christian crowd or be an outcast with the non-Christian Cherokees and I became an outcast, and I'm kind of shunned by some of my own people. Before I was made an outcast I learned about Druidism because they didn't know of what it was and just thought of it as some botanical relationship. That was I could learn more about myself spiritually for about a year before they caught on.
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For what it's worth, in my opinion, unravelling Christian and pre-Christian symbols is an exercise in futility. The so-called "Celtic Cross", like most Chistian crosses, are preceded by older, analogous symbols. I.e., the crucifixion symbol itself predates the Christ (the Ixion), as does the cross (the Tau), and as does "celtic cross"... the pre-christian celtic cross was not the "high" cross that is known as the Celtic Cross, but that newer symbol was surely informed by older solar-cross/sun-wheel symbols, which were common in pre-christian Europe, along with various "swastikas".
If you want to stick with a cross, just take it off it's pedestal (and it becomes a solar cross) or bend its arms (and it becomes a swastika).
But I agree that the oak tree is probably a much better (and less controversial) symbol, though, in fact, the mythology of the oak was as greatly appropriated by the Christian church in Europe as the cross and crucifixion had been: ever heard of the Oak King, aka John the Baptist?
Alternately, an image of the Green Man might make a good graphic for Druidism, incorporating a concept of deity along with the oak symbol, and being a bit more striking than just a tree. The Green Man seems to have endured through folklore with little or no Christian influence.
The Green Man is typically shown as a face framed in, and even spewing, oak leaves, like this:
- Redking
If you want to stick with a cross, just take it off it's pedestal (and it becomes a solar cross) or bend its arms (and it becomes a swastika).
But I agree that the oak tree is probably a much better (and less controversial) symbol, though, in fact, the mythology of the oak was as greatly appropriated by the Christian church in Europe as the cross and crucifixion had been: ever heard of the Oak King, aka John the Baptist?
Alternately, an image of the Green Man might make a good graphic for Druidism, incorporating a concept of deity along with the oak symbol, and being a bit more striking than just a tree. The Green Man seems to have endured through folklore with little or no Christian influence.
The Green Man is typically shown as a face framed in, and even spewing, oak leaves, like this:
- Redking
