News: TSG_214 Announcement

[aafritz17]

Civilization 5 - Game of the Month Training Series Game 214
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Welcome to the 214th game in the GOTM V Training Series! This Series allows new and old Civilization V fans to try out many features from Civ5's expansions and DLCs in a friendly environment. Participants are encouraged to post questions, stories, advice, tricks and failures in the dedicated game threads (described below). Each game will specify the Civ you will play and the Victory Condition to strive for. You can read more about the GOTM and Training Series concept in this thread.

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TSG214 Details:

Game Settings:
Player (You): Pocatello - Shoshone
Victory Condition: Culture (but all other VCs are enabled)
Difficulty: Immortal
Map Type/Size: Four Corners / Standard (8 Civs, 16 City-States)
Pace: Standard

Your Unique Characteristics:
UA: Great Expanse: (1) Founded cities start with additional territory (2) Units receive a combat bonus when fighting in their own territory.
UU: Pathfinder (Scout): (1) "Native Tongue" ability - may choose benefit when discovering Ancient Ruin. (2) Strength 8 instead of 5. (Upgrades to Composite Bowman)
UU: Comanche Riders (Cavalry): (1) "Full Moon Striker" ability - one extra movement. (2) Cost 200 hammers instead of 225.

Required DLC: None
Starting Era: Ancient
Required game options: None
Enabled game options: Quick Combat, Quick Movement (You may turn on/off Quick Combat/Quick Movement using the game options menu at any time during gameplay.)
Game Version: This game was created in Civ5 Brave New World version 1.0.3.279.

Here is where you will start:

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The start file is attached below.


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This game runs through 15 October 2022.

 

[armcie]

That doesn't look like the most inspiring start to me, still, we'll see how it goes... I guess settle on the bare hill is the obvious choice

 

[rickyvaughn]

Yeah, I’ll prob go E-SE with the PF, but the hill looks pretty good. There just has to be some food after the Shoshone Settler explosion.

Never played a Four Corners. Are the ‘corners’ separated by water or what?

 

[aafritz17]

Yeah, I’ll prob go E-SE with the PF, but the hill looks pretty good. There just has to be some food after the Shoshone Settler explosion.

Never played a Four Corners. Are the ‘corners’ separated by water or what?

IIRC, you can pick either ocean or mountains (or random). To me, mountains would be terribly limiting, so this one has oceans.

 

[zxcvbob]

Doesn't look great but maybe those plain tiles are full of horses (or iron) And perhaps there's some bananas or gems to the south in the jungle that we can't see yet. I'll probably settle on the hill; the marble is still in range.

I started a practice game with the same settings and was reminded why I don't play at Immortal. In the Classical era, several neighbors declared war on me because they thought I was pathetic because I hadn't yet caught up to all the bonuses they start with. My cities had walls and I'd built plenty of military yet they still captured one of my 3 cities and almost took a second. When I recovered it, the population and all the buildings were gone including my free monument and aqueduct.

 

[rickyvaughn]

Ok…so, all the corners are connected by a land bridge or something?

 

[zxcvbob]

Ok…so, all the corners are connected by a land bridge or something?

Yes, there's a small section in the middle where they all meet. I don't know how many tiles wide it is. On a standard sized map, you'll typically share a quadrant with one AI, and they will covet your lands however small that may be. And depending how close to the center you start, you may have 3 other close neighbors but there will be a chokepoint for them to reach you.

 

[rickyvaughn]

Thanks bob

LOL…in my first practice, I have 3 PF Comps and The Wheel on t25 with a free pantheon. Easy mode. No way I get that good a start in the actual game.

 

[zxcvbob]

Thanks bob

LOL…in my first practice, I have 3 PF Comps and The Wheel on t25 with a free pantheon. Easy mode. No way I get that good a start in the actual game.

In my practice game, I got a ruin right away and took culture. Upgrade to composite bow was going to be next, but I found about 3 other ruins just in time for Hiawatha to get there at the same time and grab them first. And that was all of them. (I'm assuming I really suck at this game, but at Emperor and below I can manage okay anyway)

 

[fiddlesticks]

Is the save file missing?

 

[armcie]

Is the save file missing?

Last month the forum upgrades meant the file was missing for a few days. We had some fun debating the first moves though, so I suspect @aafritz17 has done that again deliberately. Perhaps they should say so in the post though.

 

[armcie]

What ruin are you going to pick first? Get the culture flowing? A population bump? Catch up on one of those techs the AI has?

 

[vadalaz]

I'm thinking CB upgrade first, culture second, population third. Then another CB hopefully. Kill the neighbor quickly and secure the entire corner to yourself.

 

[rickyvaughn]

I like it when vad is humble and pretending he won’t own 2 quadrants in the first 100 turns. He’s sandbagging us, luring us into a false sense of hope.

 

[aafritz17]

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Is the save file missing?

FYI, I didn't upload it until this morning, the 15th, the first day to play it. I'm not confident I understand the administrative steps yet, at least not thoroughly, so I didn't rely on it automatically being there. I did it manually, this morning, before heading to my salt mine.

About the map - I rolled a bunch of 4-Corner maps, NONE of them had good food. So I finally went with this one, and it seems pretty representative of the other maps I saw. Horses were not as plentiful as I thought they ought to be, either. Pretty sure I picked "strategic balance" for the resource option, so the lack of horses surprised me.

 

[zxcvbob]

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FYI, I didn't upload it until this morning, the 15th, the first day to play it. I'm not confident I understand the administrative steps yet, at least not thoroughly, so I didn't rely on it automatically being there. I did it manually, this morning, before heading to my salt mine.

About the map - I rolled a bunch of 4-Corner maps, NONE of them had good food. So I finally went with this one, and it seems pretty representative of the other maps I saw. Horses were not as plentiful as I thought they ought to be, either. Pretty sure I picked "strategic balance" for the resource option, so the lack of horses surprised me.

I've been practicing on some 4-corners map with water dividers, and they've all been terrible in one way or another. I haven't finished one yet. Usually not enough strategic resources. It might just be their nature. It makes for a lot of wars. Don't know about this one yet.

 

[armcie]

About the map - I rolled a bunch of 4-Corner maps, NONE of them had good food. So I finally went with this one, and it seems pretty representative of the other maps I saw. Horses were not as plentiful as I thought they ought to be, either. Pretty sure I picked "strategic balance" for the resource option, so the lack of horses surprised me.

That's a relief. I thought I was missing something obvious about this map. Knowing its not *meant* to be an awesome start helps. Strategic balance just gives you horses iron and oil at your (and everyone else's) start location. Whether or not you get the other resources like Aluminium is still random, and it only guarantees one horse/oil/iron tile near you.

 

[sebtanic]

Planning to open the Opening Action and After Action threads?

 

[raider980]

I might take a few turns to walk around a bit. See if I can find another luxury. But its immortal so don't want to waste too much time. CB rush sounds good, but I can rarely pull it off so may not try it depending on the neighbor and land.

 

[VitkaCZE]

Very similar map and scenario (culture/4corners) was set few months ago