Next IE will ship before Longhorn

GrandAdmiral said:
If IE had tabbed browsing I would use it. Simple as that. I also think it would be more convinient if they just maintained the standards they already set.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer#Consequences

Yes, it will be bad for web designers to suddenly have to re-revert back to actual real standards, but as long as IE keeps running on its poorly-supported standards, the situation will only get worse when IE does start to follow standards. MS needs to get aligned with the standards NOW to stop the hemmoraging of complicated CSS hacks, workarounds, and designs.
 
A little too late for Microsoft I should say, I will not go back to using IE :D.
 
GrandAdmiral said:
If IE had tabbed browsing I would use it. Simple as that. I also think it would be more convinient if they just maintained the standards they already set.


Funny you should mention that....

It looks like Microsoft might be listening after all. News has leaked out that work is being done to implement several important demands from the Web development community into the next version of Internet Explorer



After a years-long drumbeat of developer complaints, Microsoft may finally be budging on its support for standards and on key missing features in its Internet Explorer browser.

Microsoft last month broke with a longstanding pledge and said it would release a new version of IE before its next major Windows upgrade. Security concerns catalysed the shift in plans, and Microsoft has kept mum about any possible standards or feature upgrades that might accompany the security improvements.

But a source familiar with Microsoft's plans confirmed a Tuesday report on MicrosoftWatch that IE developers, who have code-named their project Rincon, are at work on non-security features and standards support, including tabbed browsing, support for IDN, improved support for CSS 2 and PNG transparencies.

MicrosoftWatch also reported that IE7 will include a built-in news aggregator based on RSS.

While Microsoft declined to answer any questions about IE7, the company has repeatedly brought up the issue of IE 7 standards support on its developer-oriented blogs to solicit suggestions on what changes developers would like to see in the upcoming release of the browser. Without making any promises, leaders in the IE development team suggest that after years of inaction on W3C standards problems, Microsoft will finally clean up its act.

"Specific requests and descriptions of problems in the field help us tremendously in prioritizing what we need to do," Chris Wilson, Microsoft's lead program manager for the Web platform in IE, wrote in a March 9 blog titled "IE and Standards". "Microsoft does respond to customer demand; Web developers are our customers."

If the tenor of the comments posted in response to Wilson's blog item is any indication, Microsoft has a lot of angry customers.

"IE6 has stagnated since its release," wrote one of Wilson's more civil respondents. "More annoying than this stagnation has been the silence from Redmond regarding future releases and the support of standards. Aging documentation, no support forum, undocumented features — IE6 has been a nightmare."

Developers' concerns about standards and feature support in the current version of IE are reflected in the browser team's current to-do list. Frequent complaints include IE's lack of tabbed browsing; full support for CSS 2; and support for PNG transparencies, which provide a nonproprietary, unpatented way to create transparent images.

The Mozilla Foundation — whose highly successful Firefox browser many credit with lighting a fire under Microsoft's IE development work — hailed news of Microsoft's renewed attention to standards and features, but dismissed the idea that a souped-up IE could steal Firefox's fire.

"Let's remember that the reason for IE7 is security," said Chris Hofmann, Mozilla's director of engineering. "That's what's driving people away from IE and focusing them on other browser solutions like Firefox. There's some tough work for Microsoft to do because content developers have come to rely on features that are insecure."

Hofmann specifically cited Microsoft's proprietary ActiveX API for running Web-based programs on client computers; Microsoft's implementation of the DOM, which lets scripts act on discrete elements of a Web page; and IE's security zone model.

"It's not about the features," Hofmann said. "But if they're going to do this major upgrade, they're not going to leave the feature set three years behind the other browsers."

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/windows/0,39020396,39191671,00.htm

Personaly I like firefox. M$ is just playing monkey see monkey do on this one.
 
MarineCorps said:
Funny you should mention that....

Personaly I like firefox. M$ is just playing monkey see monkey do on this one.

Good.

If MS was trying to play monkey see monkey do they would have done this a long time ago. They were simply trying to release the next version of IE along with the release of Windows Longhorn. The problem is security issues won't wait around for that. In the meantime Firefox continues to ugrade its features and security not all of which were Firefox innovations. MS, Mozilla, Opera etc have been playing tit for tat ever since the browser wars started. Before this it was IE that was competing and Netscape that was lagging.
 
GrandAdmiral said:
Good.

If MS was trying to play monkey see monkey do they would have done this a long time ago. They were simply trying to release the next version of IE along with the release of Windows Longhorn. The problem is security issues won't wait around for that. In the meantime Firefox continues to ugrade its features and security not all of which were Firefox innovations. MS, Mozilla, Opera etc have been playing tit for tat ever since the browser wars started. Before this it was IE that was competing and Netscape that was lagging.

M$ is playing monkey see monkey do clear as day. It's losing ground to Firefox so it decides to copy firefox.
 
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