NEXTscience goal

[Leowind]

Not a poll, just a discussion starter. We will, eventually, discover Monarchy and will need a new science goal. Where we are in the game by then may impact what we decide to pursue, of course, but wouldn't hurt to start getting some ideas out now. Philosophy for the extra techs? Trade for caravans? Map Making for Triremes? A particular Wonder tech? If you have some thoughts start posting them here. When we get closer to actually achieving Monarchy someone (I may not be Science Advisor by then) can post an official poll.

 

[GaryNemo]

Status 3200BC: Tax=40% Sci=60% Treasury=20 gold

20,000 pop in 2 cities, F5 $1 -0, Sci 2 in 11 turns.
F11 Mfg=7, we are #1 in manufacturing, Forest Whale & Buffalo.

Researching Code of Laws in about 8 turns,
Known: Alphabet, Bronze, Ceremonial Burial.

 

[TimTheEnchanter]

Monarchy is obviously the first goal, but with all those shields, I think trade might be something to target next. I'm also wondering if pottery might not be be a good secondary tech to get the Gardens when the camels start walking. There's nothing like a happy civ. I almost always go for trade before philosophy and still don't often have a problem getting the Golden Age.

 

[GenMarshall]

We should head for Literacy . THat way we can build the Great Library.

 

[Jayne]

I'm hoping there's no point building the Great Library, we plan to be first in the science. GL is only any use when you are third or less.

 

[TimTheEnchanter]

Just Say NO ...to the GL!

This is your Research:
Researching Astronomy
Discoveries every 7 turns


This is your Research on the GL
Researching Astronomy
Discoveries every 20 turns

Any Questions?

 

[Elsaak]

definitly NO !!
for exemple, the Gardens are much more usefull that the great lib.

Is it possible to propose a poll about which wonders we would plan to built ?

 

[TheViking]

I never build the GL these days. Marco Polo is vastly superior to it, using MP you decide which techs you get (via exchanging techs) but when you have the GL you can get useless techs at a bad time (for example when you are about to discover something important, thus delaying your important discovery).

We should head for philosphy, pottery (=HG) or trade (=MP) next, depending on circumstances. At the moment we are behind the other civs in just about everything so getting philosophy before everyone else may be difficult.

 

[Leowind]

Elsaak, I think a poll about what wonders we want is an excellent idea, and could help inform our discussion re: Science. Jayne, DoM, et. al., would that fall under the domain of the Domestic Advisor? Or should Elsaak just start one as a concerned citizen?

 

[Jayne]

I think it could come under a number of departments. I think to begin with it would be Science because it may guide what tech path we take, then later Domestic to decide when and where to build it. Foreign and Military may also want to campaign for particular Wonders eg Marco's or Sun Tzu.

I think for now, Leowind, you can post a poll - but if you are short of time then Elsaak may post one for you.

 

[Elsaak]

Leowind, I prefer you did it : I never poll already and don't know how it CORRECTLY works (multi or not ?)

 

[Duke of Marlbrough]

Originally posted by Leowind
Elsaak, I think a poll about what wonders we want is an excellent idea, and could help inform our discussion re: Science. Jayne, DoM, et. al., would that fall under the domain of the Domestic Advisor? Or should Elsaak just start one as a concerned citizen?

Ideally, polls should be started by the Advisors. That way we can try to keep things organized and try to avoid times where dicussions may be duplicated and such.

 

[puglover]

I have been appointed the new Science Advisor. I chose Leowind for a Deputy. I don't want to start a new thread so I'll just use this one. I think we should aim (after monarchy) for Literacy and the Great Library. We should stay ahead in Science.

 

[GenMarshall]

Hmm, I can see that my Idea has crashed and Burned :-/. Please excuse me since my Civ2 Skills are kind of rusty :s

 

[EnriqueCR]

I vote for Philosophy as the main objective. An extra tech is very important. I´ve no doubts about discovering philosophy over others

 

[GenMarshall]

I still would like to se us Getting to Literature. With that Tech we can build Libraries

~CivGeneral, Asparing Civ2 DG President

 

[TheViking]

While the cities are small I always prefer to increase science by building something that makes it easier for the cities to grow bigger using WLTP. This results in more science and more production and trade while libraries only increase science. So marketplaces and caravans (to increase happiness via trade) and temples are more useful IMO. I never build libraries until my cities are between 8 and 12 (usually closer to 12) in size, except in the SSC which gets a library immediately after it has a temple and marketplace, without waiting for it to reach a specific size.

 

[Leowind]

I would tend to agree with the Viking. Marketplaces and Trade will do more in the long term for science than libraries. Trade would be my option for the next big science goal, but I could support a detour through Philosphy on the way.

 

[GaryNemo]

I assume we are planning to get a Wonder or 2 from the AI. For that reason, I believe Trade is indispensable.

I suggest Library in SSC before Market.
SSC Neumatic: Temple 14/40 in 13, grows in 11, problem?
  Send another police soon. Temple, then Wonder?

2200BC: Researching Monarchy in 2-3 turns.
Known: Alpha Bronze CerBur CodeLaws Writing.

 

[TheViking]

We should rush buy the temple in the SSC a few turns from now and start a wonder there.