[BNW] Shared Immortal Game Series Thread

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Was struggling a bit for happiness despite Fountain of Youth (Dido recently got a duplicate pearls to help, though). An annoying barb camp has spit out a galleass, so my food routes might be in trouble - I really should have been working towards education and compass. Stole three workers from Liz which helped significantly, but unless I get an army score, she'll be hostile (won't even accept embassy exchange). AI generally terrible on water maps, but if she sends a navy, it might be tricky. Excellent economy, but I'm not really doing anything with it - will need to buy some tiles after Tonga's lighthouse goes up. Invest in city states after that.

Still haven't met three AIs (but I know one of those is Gajah Mada - he won Genoa's culture quest I had hoped to win; plus, a CS or maybe one of my cities wants cloves or something like that). Two scouts were bogged down on an ancient ruins guarded by a barb archer. Eventually got it (upgrade) and turned to the nearby camp (CS quest with worker in it). The CS cleared the camp, and I forgot about the scout (it was on alert rather than heal).

Religion - 1c1f from gold and silver, tithe, up to 15% production. Used one missionary to spread to Samoa and Tonga. All five cities within 10 tiles of each other, so they're pretty safe. No point in enhancing. Will probably plant one prophet and use another for CS quests.

No wonders - most went early (Oracle on turn before I researched Philosophy), and my production queue was full anyway. Finally on Turn 89, I considered trying for Hanging Gardens, but capital has a lot of food and can build its own garden later. Plus, I noticed Sejong went tradition. Multiple AIs have gone Aesthetics, so I might not even get a Renaissance wonder.

No real plan for a culture victory, but it's not over yet!

Turn 21: Worker Steals

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Turn 89: National College

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[ForkOfSpite]

SIGS 3 Complete - Turn 236 Culture Victory! Was fun, and clearly, being concerned at Turn 89 was misplaced. No one ever threatened me militarily despite having the lowest military score through most of the game. Those annoying barbarian galleasses only plundered one of my trade routes (and that was just carelessness after I thought the threat was over). Barbs also captured my 11th and final archaeologist, but the game was well over by then - might not have finished the dig anyway. My lack of a Renaissance wonder concern was also misplaced - hard built Sistine Chapel and Leaning Tower.

Comparing to TSG 275 (Greece - immortal, culture, continents) which took me 290 turns, my science was significantly better in this game. It's not exactly a fair comparison (deity pace is quicker, bonuses given in this game, plus finding Writing and Sailing in ruins), but I think the main difference was detours before Scientific Theory (ST). In this game, I only detoured up to Compass and popped ST on Turn 155. In the Greece game, I detoured all the way to Archeology (plus Steel) and didn't get ST until Turn 200 or so.

Comparing times to Education - T111 in this game (workshops before universities) compared to T126 in the Greece game (universities before workshops). The bonuses and ancient ruins certainly explain sped things up significantly, but I already had workshops in this game and still got to Education 15 turns earlier. Plastics - T208 compared to T252. Internet - T221 compared to T268. I thought I'd win this game before completing the International Games (bought my only musician before since I didn't think IG would complete in time). Turns out IG finished, and I might have saved about 5 turns or so if I waited for IG.

Nevertheless, I don't know if I could have made the hard tech* strategy work in the Greece game. I relied on frigates to repel (and counterattack) Caesar. Maybe I could have put those hammers into crossbows and pikes and made it work. Of course, there's also the bribery and loans strategy - I rarely have the economy to make that work though, and when I do, it's not needed.

(* "Hard tech", yet my final science in a 5-city game was only 970. Lack of trading post/jungles and specialist slots - no banks, no factories - probably explain that.)

Another possible explanation was early game gold use - bought my first cargo ship, and I think that worked well (in this game). Also bought a library (fairly common). Needed to buy a lot of tiles - think I could have had better timing on those, though.

Best Moai Cities
1) Samoa
2) Nuku Hiva
3) Tonga

Turn 236 Screenshots
Polynesia

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Honolulu

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Samoa

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Tonga

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Nuku Hiva

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Raiatea (no airport)

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[raider980]

SIGS 3 Complete - Turn 236 Culture Victory! Was fun, and clearly, being concerned at Turn 89 was misplaced. No one ever threatened me militarily despite having the lowest military score through most of the game. Those annoying barbarian galleasses only plundered one of my trade routes (and that was just carelessness after I thought the threat was over). Barbs also captured my 11th and final archaeologist, but the game was well over by then - might not have finished the dig anyway. My lack of a Renaissance wonder concern was also misplaced - hard built Sistine Chapel and Leaning Tower.

Comparing to TSG 275 (Greece - immortal, culture, continents) which took me 290 turns, my science was significantly better in this game. It's not exactly a fair comparison (deity pace is quicker, bonuses given in this game, plus finding Writing and Sailing in ruins), but I think the main difference was detours before Scientific Theory (ST). In this game, I only detoured up to Compass and popped ST on Turn 155. In the Greece game, I detoured all the way to Archeology (plus Steel) and didn't get ST until Turn 200 or so.

Glad you liked it! And thats a good time. Polynesia is one of my favorite Civs; they don't get enough love on the tier lists. Even in non CV games I have fun with the Moai.