No Interface!

[pholkhero]

so, i loaded up the Space mod last night, and found that there was no interface available: no unit info, no city screen details, not even the options menu came up (but the "esc" menu did).

i figured it was just that mod, but when i loaded up BtS, i have the same problem! Ctl and Alt-I both don't work as I think it's something much more than that.

i reinstalled civ, starting w/Vanilla (and that's fine), but once BtS enters the mix, the problems return. not sure what to do at this point.

any help/suggestions would be appreciated ~

thanks

pholk

 

[ori]

please open your civilizationIV.ini (in ...\My Games\Beyond the Sword\) and change the following so that the values are as depicted:

; Set to 1 for no python exception popups

HidePythonExceptions = 0

; Enable the logging system

LoggingEnabled = 1



; Enable synchronization logging

SynchLog = 1



; Overwrite old network and message logs

OverwriteLogs = 1



; Enable rand event logging

RandLog = 1



; Enable message logging

MessageLog = 1

then start a game - if there are any popups please make screenshots - save the game (alt-s should work for a quick save) and post:
any screenshots
a zip that includes all contents of the ...\My Games\Beyond the Sword\Logs\ directory
a save if possible

 

[pholkhero]

doing it now ~

also, no "hall of fame," "Options" etc from main menu either

 

[pholkhero]

okay ~ here goes ~ i got a LOT of python warnings on first starting civ ~

file "<string>," line1, ln?

& line 52, in load_module
& line 3, "CvEventInterface" ~ couldn't get shots of those, but here's some from the loading of a new game:

Spoiler for shots :

and attached is the zip and save ~

thanks a million!

 

[ori]

ok first thing:
the init.log shows the following version:

[18882.171] VERSION: Build: Sat Jun 23 07:49:44 2007

[18882.171] VERSION: 3.0.0.86 (74099)

If the 3.13 patch had been applied correctly it would read:

[2545.546] VERSION: Build: Fri Sep 21 14:16:18 2007

[2545.546] VERSION: 3.0.0.1 (81539)

Most likely you tried to install the 3.13 patch but it did only install partially. There are quite a number of people who experienced this. The most common cause was a non-default install path of Civ and/or Beyond the Sword. The patch .exe unfortunately does not query the Windows registry for the correct install path and dumps some of its files where it thinks they should be and not necessarily where they indeed are.
Another case I recall was of some altered game files where it for some reason did not overwrite those. In either case you *could* try running the patch again (preferably download it from this site or from Firaxis' homepage and apply it, not go the ingame routine). If that fails (which is probable) you will probably need to uninstall BtS again AND delete all remnants, mainly the My Games\Beyond the Sword and Application Data\My Games\Beyond the Sword directories if the uninstall does not remove those.

 

[pholkhero]

i have not yet installed 3.13 yet ~ i did before i uninstalled the game, but it was working fine until last night when i loaded up the space mod.

i will try to uninstall BtS and delete teh directories, and see what effect that has

 

[pholkhero]

i can't find that Application Data directory ~

 

[ori]

i have not yet installed 3.13 yet ~ i did before i uninstalled the game, but it was working fine until last night when i loaded up the space mod.

i will try to uninstall BtS and delete teh directories, and see what effect that has

ok I thought you had 3.13
Still the errors you posted all have to do with the fact that the game looks for some files that it cannot find, either they are corrupted, sit somewhere where it does not expect them or are from a different version. The problem it encounters is that it cannot assign a starting tech to research and a few other things that are included in the startup interface and then gives up drawing that interface.
To be more precise it cannot find the files:
CvScreensinterface.py
and
CvEventInterface.py

 

[pholkhero]

okay ~ realized that it's missing something once I saw those python errors ~

i deleted the BtS directories, but, as I said, can't find the application data one, and i'm going to try to install again later today and see what happens ~ thanks again!

 

[ori]

okay ~ realized that it's missing something once I saw those python errors ~

i deleted the BtS directories, but, as I said, can't find the application data one, and i'm going to try to install again later today and see what happens ~ thanks again!

The Application Data is just there if you tried Multiplayer Games before and the game did keep some stuff cached (I have caching disabled completely so it is not there anyhow on my machine) - I just included it in case you have it

 

[pholkhero]

sweet ~ never did MP so . . .

i'll keep ya updated later on today

 

[pholkhero]

okay!! wiping out that little BtS file that was left over after the uninstall did the trick!

1000 thanks for all your help, Ori! if i ever have a problem, you'll be the first person i PM

seriously, thanks again ~

now the only question is: do I dare install the BUG 2.0 well, at least I'll know how to fix it if anythign goes ary ~

 

[ori]

glad it worked

 

[Thorongil]

I have the same problem as pholkero; I did as ori said (uninstalled game, deleted the directory in "my Games") but it keeps appearing.

I use the Civ4-Complete-Version and the problem appears (apart from one or two oder Mods) in the Total Realism 2.2 for WarlordsGold-Mod.

I afterwards enabled the error-showing (as ori explained), on the load-up of the Mod several errors occured (which didn´t show up before) but the Mod kept loading, everthing went fine until I started a game and had no interface. The error shown is the same as posted above in the Screens (#47 and #70).

My log file: http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/129551/Logs.rar

I am playing with german Version, but so far haven´t had any problems with it, so I don´t think that´s the reason, also found no solution in the TR2-forum. I´d be glad if anybody could help me, thanks in advance

greetings

 

[ori]

Welcome to CFC

I fear reinstalling will not help much. The problem here is that Civ4 Complete just as Civ4 Gold uses different assets from the normal retail versions. In their effort to repair this for Beyond the Sword they changed the assets of both Vanilla and Warlords which effectively means that people without Beyond the Sword play with different files than people with BtS even when they play Warlords or Vanilla. Now most mods for Warlords have been programmed for pre-BtS and some have been updated for the 2.13 patch that came out with BtS but I don't know of any that made a second version for 2.13 with BtS which is an issue since Complete came out.
The error log says that it cannot read a lot of the xml files and some of the graphics that come with the mod. You could post this in the Total Realism thread and maybe someone will port it to Complete, but as it stands this whole thing is messed up and will probably remain so until Take2/Firaxis cares to patch all of their versions to one standard instead of messing around with their game (at the moment there are from my count at least 6 different Vanilla and Warlords and 4 different Beyond the Sword versions out that have difficulties interacting properly ).
Just to show something from your log this is the build date of your Warlords 2.13:

[33549.359] VERSION: Build: Wed Jun 06 23:55:39 2007
[33549.359] VERSION: 2.1.3.0

and this is of mine pre-BtS patch 3.13:

[1750.437] VERSION: Build: Wed May 16 19:23:38 2007
[1750.437] VERSION: 2.1.3.0

I have not played Warlords since patching but now it would probably be Sep 24 so a third version just between the two of us
To summarize:
Either ask the people who made the Total Realism mod whether they can fix the issues with Complete (post your error log for them as well) or do not use the mod or get rid of Complete and get the normal retail versions of all of this - I know that neither of those is a satisfactory answer

 

[Thorongil]

Welcome to CFC
To summarize:
Either ask the people who made the Total Realism mod whether they can fix the issues with Complete (post your error log for them as well) or do not use the mod or get rid of Complete and get the normal retail versions of all of this - I know that neither of those is a satisfactory answer

But it´s an answer and though it´s far from good I do know what´s going on now, thanks for the quick help and thx for the warm welcome

I already assumed that it could have something to do with the complete-Version and I after reading your post about the differences in the files I think I also know the problems I have with some other Mods. Just to prevent further confusion one more question: Warlords and Warlord-Mods use different models and files, is there also a difference between the "normal" BTS-version and the complete-version concering files? Cause I also encounter some similar problems (apart from missing UI also missing texts in the main menu and all following menus) with the complete-version.

greets

 

[ori]

But it´s an answer and though it´s far from good I do know what´s going on now, thanks for the quick help and thx for the warm welcome

I already assumed that it could have something to do with the complete-Version and I after reading your post about the differences in the files I think I also know the problems I have with some other Mods. Just to prevent further confusion one more question: Warlords and Warlord-Mods use different models and files, is there also a difference between the "normal" BTS-version and the complete-version concering files? Cause I also encounter some similar problems (apart from missing UI also missing texts in the main menu and all following menus) with the complete-version.

greets

They claimed that they had solved this problem for the 3.13 patch (which complete already has) for mods that were made for pre-3.13 I would expect similar problems. For mods that are already updated it should work. Note though that 3.13 was only released 3 weeks ago and so most mods are probably in the process of being updated but may not yet be so.

 

[federik1982]

I think to have the same problem on some mods, like next fantasy war,overlord,history in the making and rise of the mankind. Only with these.
After loaded the mod the menu is without any words! I tried to start a game anyway, remembering where to click. Also in the game there aren't any description or words or anything write on something.

 

[ori]

those mods do they come with the game? the names sound so unfamiliar...
If they are downloaded ones the most common reason would be that they are not updated to the most recent patch...

 

[carrieokaye]

If you are using Window Vista, you would need to run the program as Administrator.

Right click on your desktop icon > Properties > Compatibility > Run this program as an administrator