No more mp3 allowed in games

[deanx0r]

Pasted from tribes-universe.com

RIAA Sues Sierra Over Tribes 2

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), in its ongoing battle against online music piracy and copyright infringement, has filed suit against Sierra Entertainment, Inc. Specifically, the RIAA charges Sierra with promoting the illegal distribution of music MP3 files in their popular Tribes 2 multiplayer game.

Hilary B. Rosen, president and CEO of the RIAA, explained the reasoning behind the legal action. "Clearly Sierra is promoting the free distribution and copying of MP3s by even including these files with their software. Installing the game copies the music to the user's hard drive. Once on disk as MP3 files, they can be easily copied, uploaded, and downloaded. That's aiding and abetting piracy."

A Sierra spokesperson was baffled. "We don't know what the fuss is about. Our subsidiary developer, Dynamix, created those MP3s specifically for Tribes 2, so we own the copyrights on them. And they're just ambient background music, not chart-topping singles."

"I thought the RIAA was only concerned about losing income from their money machines like Britney Spears," said a disgusted Tribes 2 gamer. "What'll they do next, outlaw music altogether?"

The RIAA's Rosen was firm. "President Bush has declared war on terrorism, and we have declared war on music piracy. Besides," she added, "everyone knows gamers are hackers and software pirates, sort of like the drug addicts of the Internet. If we can't get them individually, we'll go after their suppliers.")

I like that last passage in bold
Sank you so much RIAA fucktards

 

[sgrig]

Originally posted by deanx0r
Besides," she added, "everyone knows gamers are hackers and software pirates, sort of like the drug addicts of the Internet. If we can't get them individually, we'll go after their suppliers.")

I like that last passage in bold
Sank you so much RIAA fucktards

I am afraid I don't really like that message!! The gaming community should sue RIAA for libel!!

 

[.:KNAS:.]

we should encouradge sites such as gamespy and such to sue the RIAA

and what a stupid *****, thats like saying all foreigners are criminals

 

[eyrei]

Originally posted by deanx0r
Pasted from tribes-universe.com

The RIAA's Rosen was firm. "President Bush has declared war on terrorism, and we have declared war on music piracy. Besides," she added, "everyone knows gamers are hackers and software pirates, sort of like the drug addicts of the Internet. If we can't get them individually, we'll go after their suppliers.")

How does someone with this little common sense and discretion get to be a CEO?

 

[knowltok2]

I always thought that software pirates didn't buy games. I wouldn't know for sure, being as that I am not one. Nor am I a hacker. I am a computer gamer though.

I hope the ACLU stands up for Sierra in this case though.

This is just nuts. Do they think that they are on opposite sides when it comes to piracy as Sierra? Sierra makes a product, and tries to sell it, and is obviously hurt by piracy. They might as well sue Virgin Records for recording their artists in digital recordings. It's about the same thing. God knows if they still used LP's it wouldn't be as easy to pirate music.

Maybe Sierra can just call their background music files SR3's and keep everything else the same. I'm sure it will take this idiot years to catch on, and by then her obvious incompetance will have gottern her fired.

 

[Greadius]

Originally posted by deanx0r
"President Bush has declared war on terrorism, and we have declared war on music piracy"

I think you didn't bold the worst part. She is calling all gamers music pirates, and then comparing her witch hunt to hunting terrorists? What world is she from?

Weren't there some artists raising money against the RIAA just before the Grammy's? I can't believe that people like that get money when I buy CDs. Makes me want to download them all and send the cash directly to the artists so this ***** has to get a constructive career.

 

[Padma]

This story does not surprise me. Hilary Rosen is already well-known (infamous might be a better word ) among computer-music enthusiasts and copyright/free-speech activists.

The RIAA apparently believes that the only music we should be allowed to listen to must come from their 'members' (aka 'stable of cogs in a mediocre music machine'). That way they can control the copyright (and money-flow) in perpetuity. OK, not perpetuity. Even she/they haven't tried to change the U.S. constitution (yet). But they HAVE blown the 'limited time' concept of copyright completely out of the water. Current U.S. copyright law now provides an 'author' to have copyright for lifetime + 50 years (I think - it might be longer). If a corporation holds a copyright, ala Disney, copyright lasts at least 90 years. All because of organizations like the RIAA.

And yes, Knowltok, they are very concerned about digital recording. Copies that sound as good as the original! We can't stand for that! People might share copies (e.g. Napster) and not give us any money!

The RIAA is behind the current scheme to sell 'copy protected' music CDs. They play fine in a good, state-of-the-art CD player, one with 'skip protection' features. But if you try to play it on your home computer, you get tracks full of hisses and pops, because they DEGRADE the quality of the CD, by putting in microsecond gaps in the music. The skip-protection systems think it's a scratch, and correct for it. Your PC, meanwhile, just reads and plays everything on the track. This is supposed to combat making copies on your CD, or uploading to MP3 files. But what it does is deny you your fair use rights to make a copy for your personal use.

Hilary Rosen and her ilk believe the average person is a pirate/thief/lawbreaker/whatever, and is only prevented from doing evil things by their vigilence.

</rant> Sorry, folks, but Hilary Rosen and these bogus copyright issues are one of my 'hot buttons'.

 

[sgrig]

Originally posted by Padma

The RIAA is behind the current scheme to sell 'copy protected' music CDs. They play fine in a good, state-of-the-art CD player, one with 'skip protection' features. But if you try to play it on your home computer, you get tracks full of hisses and pops, because they DEGRADE the quality of the CD, by putting in microsecond gaps in the music. The skip-protection systems think it's a scratch, and correct for it. Your PC, meanwhile, just reads and plays everything on the track. This is supposed to combat making copies on your CD, or uploading to MP3 files. But what it does is deny you your fair use rights to make a copy for your personal use.

But professional hacker/pirates will make software which emulate the 'skip-protection' feature, hence enabling them to listen/record/distribute music electronically, while ordinary law-abiding citizens will lose out!

 

[Greadius]

Originally posted by Padma
This is supposed to combat making copies on your CD, or uploading to MP3 files. But what it does is deny you your fair use rights to make a copy for your personal use.

The first time I buy a CD that has that feature enabled is the last time I buy a CD. I digitize all my music and use it exclusively... I think the last CD I bought was actually played in a CD player once.

 

[BlueMonday]

Ok, that's it. The RIAA had finally phucking lost it. They must have smoked a blunt or two too many back in the seventies which has impaired their already half-witted intellects even further. First they strike napster but make the mistake of doing it publically so that everyone who didn't already know about P2P sharing does which results in Napster exploding from 3,000,000 million to 50,000,000 users in six months. Then once Napster becomes a pay service it drives all the "pirates" onto a host of other napster clones and next generation P2P networks. Now they're trying to take down Morpheus but that will take another year and a half to solve after which they'll just have to take down another and another and another.

Now they pull this bullsh!t stunt. Can any of you say "heads in their asses"? First of all, they've got no case against Sierra. Sierra owns the copyright to that music and can do whatever they want with it no matter what the RIAA says. It seems to me that the RIAA sees MP3 as piracy. What stupitity! Would they be *****ing about this if the music in the game were in another format? Second, how the hell does music in a game (even if it is a form usually used for internet piracy) promote music piracy? I'm not even goin to comment on that issue, because it's such bullsh!t I can't even wrap my head around it.

BTW, it doesn't matter what format music is in. For example, in Operation Flashpoint all the music was in LIP format. So if you wanted to take a popular song off of Napster and put it in the game, all you had to do was go to one of the fansites and get a program that changed MP3 into LIP and then put it in the music directory. We have whole custom missions on custom maps with custom (and stolen) music. Does the RIAA really think that it matters to us whether or not MP3 is used?

I hereby move that we rename those grabastic peices of amphibian sh!t -the RIAA- from Recording Industry Association of America to "Rich, Impotent, ******* Americans."

 

[knowltok2]

Seeing some of these responses I take the light-hearted sarcasm out of my statement that the ACLU should help Sierra. Now I really mean it. If they're going to stand up for NAMBL, they can stand up for Sierra. They probably won't because it is a corporation, but the precedent that could be set if Sierra loses could affect just about any recording artist in the world. RIAA may not realize that MP3 is just one way to digitize music, but some day a lawyer will draw the connection, point out that MP3 is the same as ??? and claim that the same ruling should apply. Considering that Sierra made the music themselves and sold it as part of an entertainment package, how will an individual be different? The same law would apply. What if I made a recordin of my artistic vision (pray that I don't) in MP3 and sold it? Is the RIAA honestly trying to say that I shouldn't be able to? They would probably be even more appalled if I gave it away. Something tells me that the first amendment should apply in there somewhere .

 

[Padma]

Originally posted by sgrig

But professional hacker/pirates will make software which emulate the 'skip-protection' feature, hence enabling them to listen/record/distribute music electronically, while ordinary law-abiding citizens will lose out!

This is indeed one of the fears of those of us concerned with the direction copyright laws have taken lately.
A good site for those concerned is the Electronic Frontier Foundation .

Back to the original topic, I think the only legal case the RIAA would have is if they could prove Sierra illegally copied music written by some of its members. Sierra has already said that is bullsh!t. But that probably won't stop the RIAA. They are against MP3s on principle. What principle? The one that says that their members (and therefore they) don't get any money unless you buy their music and use their software/hardware to listen to it.

(BTW: The 'skip protection' scheme is incredibly easy to program a fix for; about a dozen lines of C, IIRC. But because of the DMCA and the proposed SSSCA, it is illegal to publish, describe, etc. the algorithm within the U.S.A.)

 

[damunzy]

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The RIAA is behind the current scheme to sell 'copy protected' music CDs. They play fine in a good, state-of-the-art CD player, one with 'skip protection' features. But if you try to play it on your home computer, you get tracks full of hisses and pops, because they DEGRADE the quality of the CD, by putting in microsecond gaps in the music. The skip-protection systems think it's a scratch, and correct for it. Your PC, meanwhile, just reads and plays everything on the track. This is supposed to combat making copies on your CD, or uploading to MP3 files. But what it does is deny you your fair use rights to make a copy for your personal use.
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While I agree that people should be able to make mix tracks for themselves, let's not kid ourselves into think that is all people do. If your friend was to come up to you and ask for a copy of an entire CD, and you had the ability to copy it, you would do it and not blink an eye. You down the RIAA for making money on mucis....well do you want to go back to the quality of music back on tapes and records? I sure as hell don't. That said I also believe that the RIAA is a bunch of money grubbers that needs to come up with a better system for distributing songs.
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The first time I buy a CD that has that feature enabled is the last time I buy a CD. I digitize all my music and use it exclusively... I think the last CD I bought was actually played in a CD player once.
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Technically it won't be a CD because the inventor, and patent holder, of the term CD- Compact Disc, has publicly stated that they will not let anyone that uses the above mentioned form of "copyright protection" to use their symbol. BTW, this is another big corporation, that seems to be sticking up for us instead of trying to squeze every ounce of blood out. (I believe the company is Pioneer? Am I correct on this?)
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Ok, that's it. The RIAA had finally phucking lost it. [....] First they strike napster but make the mistake of doing it publically so that everyone who didn't already know about P2P sharing does which results in Napster exploding from 3,000,000 million to 50,000,000 users in six months.
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I found out about Napster and MP3s b/c of the news of Napster being sued. Me being a law abiding citizen, don't laugh so hard GenghisK!!, I try to find a song, in MP3 format, from the manufacture's website. After searching for hours I find out that they don't sell MP3s. I remember Napster, DL it, and a few hours later (Dial-up sucks) I have the song....for free. Shot yourself in the foot that time, uh, BGM? I throw all your damn CD offers away now....who needs 'em?

 

[BlueMonday]

Originally posted by PaleHorse76
I found out about Napster and MP3s b/c of the news of Napster being sued. Me being a law abiding citizen, don't laugh so hard GenghisK!!, I try to find a song, in MP3 format, from the manufacture's website. After searching for hours I find out that they don't sell MP3s. I remember Napster, DL it, and a few hours later (Dial-up sucks) I have the song....for free. Shot yourself in the foot that time, uh, BGM? I throw all your damn CD offers away now....who needs 'em?

Pretty much the same here. I had heard of Napster but had never used it untill the lawsuit came around. Before Napster I had only a few WMA tracks that I had copied from my own CD collection, but once I saw Napster on a news story and how easy it was to use I went there immediatly. Now, the only legal music (or any multimedia for that matter) that I keep on my machine or CDRs are songs/movies/other that I downloaded and then decided they were good enough to buy. A dark day in hell will it be when I waste my money on another CD with one good song on it or a movie with a plot that goes nowhere. What with the combo of Napster clones, next generation p2p networks, and FTPs why should I feed the Hollywood monkey for sh!t I don't even like all that much?

 

[Adebisi]

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[Hitro]

The RIAA's Rosen was firm. "President Bush has declared war on terrorism, and we have declared war on music piracy

Hmm, I don't know if I'm with the music pirates, but I'm certainly not with the RIAA...
And I don't think I'm the only one...
So maybe that declaration isn't that smart...

 

[God]

Originally posted by deanx0r
The RIAA's Rosen was firm. "President Bush has declared war on terrorism, and we have declared war on music piracy. Besides," she added, "everyone knows gamers are hackers and software pirates, sort of like the drug addicts of the Internet. If we can't get them individually, we'll go after their suppliers.")

So we have Al-Firaxis and Sierramas. *****

 

[muppet]

Originally posted by deanx0r
Pasted from tribes-universe.com

The RIAA's Rosen was firm. "President Bush has declared war on terrorism, and we have declared war on music piracy. Besides," she added, "everyone knows gamers are hackers and software pirates, sort of like the drug addicts of the Internet. If we can't get them individually, we'll go after their suppliers.")

Hmm...

How do you take someone like that seriously?

I get it now. Rosen is a comedian and is currently in-between jobs.

 

[DinoDoc]

The story was made up guys.

 

[deanx0r]

Bah, I forgot to read that little note written below the article

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