No multiplayer = Half A$$ Job

[lc3man]

Lizy - Say no to drugs. I've seen what it does to people and they all started off talking the way you do now. "wah!! don't complain" "wah! Single-player rules". If you stop smoking the crack you will see why games like Everquest, Starcraft, AoK, etc. etc. do so well. Maybe if you tried playing a 'real' multiplayer game you would see why 95% of the gaming public plays mp games.

Just say no Lizzy!! You can kick the habit!!

 

[CoolLizy]

Originally posted by lc3man
Lizy - Say no to drugs. I've seen what it does to people and they all started off talking the way you do now. "wah!! don't complain" "wah! Single-player rules". If you stop smoking the crack you will see why games like Everquest, Starcraft, AoK, etc. etc. do so well. Maybe if you tried playing a 'real' multiplayer game you would see why 95% of the gaming public plays mp games.

Just say no Lizzy!! You can kick the habit!!

First off, it's Lizy. One z. And since when did I say MP sucks? I like MP games. In fact, I'm working on making one myself. But that doesn't mean I can't like SP, too.
By the way, just beause some 95% of the gaming public plays MP games doesn't mean only 5% play SP. You can play BOTH. I'd estimate somewhere around 75% - 90% of Windows users play Solitare on their computers at least once a month.
Do me a favor. Take off your blindfold.

 

[lc3man]

Free cell Lizzy not solitaire.

 

[rpg_Casper]

chances are better waiting for 'American Conquest' (version of Cossacks) that will kick the crap out of civ3 (which cossacks does still). civ2 is MUCH better than civ3 just because of scenario creation,multi-player alone!!

 

[drake]

FYI, The customer is NOT king! The customer is a customer!

This is a hilarious statement!
Consumers hold ALL the power in any market. Companies don't make products just for fun, they make them to make a profit. No profit= no company.

Nobody HAS to buy anything. Its their own personal choice. Settling for sub standard products only breeds mediocricy. And some people aren't satisfied with medicricy. That is called being a smart consumer.

By defending a product that is half assed only goes to show how easily mediocricy is rewarded.

Criticism is what makes things better. Defending a sub par product only makes people look silly


"Mediocricy is rewarded, set your standards low" - better than ezra

 

[Franklyn]

Ice, Lizy -- you two cool off or take it outside. The SP/MP thing has been argued to death here and elsewhere, and I for one am tired of reading about it.
I (and probably some other folks, too) would like to see you spend your energy on playing Civ3, coming up w/ some strategies and reporting back on your games.

 

[lc3man]

Franklyn - Too bad for us that you pick posts that you dont like to read and then make a comment on how badly you dont like to read them....... Doesn't make much sense there buddy. Here, I can help you out, DONT READ THEM! heheheee

Now, do you have a comment on the lack of development that has brought about all this negativity?

Obviously I am someone who takes thier gaming a tad bit seriously. (My wife can attest to that) When people started complaining about Broodwar play balance I was there defending the good ol' Protoss. I don't mind flame's because as I sit here reading them I don't take anything that people say on boards seriously. There isn't one darned thing that Liz could do or say to get me angry. If anything it's fun when you get a really good flame going.

I make a comment on my view then read posts and depending on how much Prozac I took in the morning I may or may not respond.

 

[Franklyn]

I'm not taking the bait. Have fun with your flame war.

 

[KnightOwl]

Max Payne.. now there was one hell of a killer game.. oh wait.. that was SP..

Grand Theft Auto 3 for PS2.. hmm another killer game that's doing great.. oh wait.. SP as well...

The Sims.. hmm.. how long has that been the #1 selling game? That must be MP! Whoops.. nope.. single player..

Grand Turismo 3 for PS2.. hmmm.. has some MP to it.. but really that's not the reason this is the only game that is directly bundled with the PS2.. that would be the SP which kicks some serious ass...

Metal Gear Solid 2 for PS2.. damn.. another hot game with no MP..

Sufficive to say.. while MP is definitly a big thing in this day and age (MMORPGs anyone?) it is not the end all be all of gaming... Oh and one of the arguably best MP games of all time.. Half Life.. sucks without the mods available (which.. you might think of as.. patches?)

 

[rpg_Casper]

is that the majority of game players have no idea how to do it or think it costs money!! yes, there are a few that charge$$ but the majority of games can be played over the internet for FREE. stupid people who make games (advertisers) just never mention this on the front of the box. i promise if one decent game comes out and has a cover that says, "play others over internet for FREE" then the multi-player industry would pick up.

 

[Jezner]

I think Firaxis have been very up front with the gaming community about the lack of multiplayer. Then again, I remember every Civ game lacking multiplayer. Be patient. They will produce a version. Personally, I'd rather have the game now, then wait x months. I'm loving the single player campaign. Just be patient.

As for Civ2 being better than Civ3 - in the end, it all boils down to opinion. But I do remember getting Civ2 and being really bummed by it. After awhile, I tried CIV 1 and realized those little suble differences were actually major ones. After that, Civ 2 became my best friend. As for Civ 3 - I think they made lightyears of improvment. I dare you to get used to it. Trust me, C2iv 2 will pale in comparason.

 

[VoodooAce]

Hey, all you SP'ers, stop playing with yourself!!

You ol' hairy palmed, blind @$$ed, lotion squirting fools.

Dude started this thread to make a very, very legitimate complaint, and all these guys that would rather be playing with themselves can't resist bashing him.

When I first saw civ2, i thought "Man, this game will be f@#king awesome if only you could play against real competition, not the lame AI"

Granted, the AI in the trey, if you believe the posts, is better....as it should be. But still....

What do you do when you win? Say "Woo Hoo, in your face, you lifeless machine!!" Isn't it much funner, and more chalenging to play against an unpredictable human?

 

[Sarcastro]

Originally posted by lc3man
Obviously I am someone who takes thier gaming a tad bit seriously. (My wife can attest to that) When people started complaining about Broodwar play balance I was there defending the good ol' Protoss. I don't mind flame's because as I sit here reading them I don't take anything that people say on boards seriously. There isn't one darned thing that Liz could do or say to get me angry. If anything it's fun when you get a really good flame going.

If that's the case, then let me say that after witnessing your behavior in this thread, I can't imagine how you could possibly have landed a wife. I'm guessing you acted a little less like a junior-high kid. Do that more.

 

[Mikeweather]

Let's see, Civ 1 was single player at release, Civ 2 was single player at release, SMAC was single player at release, now Civ 3 is single player at release. Anyone see a pattern here?

 

[VoodooAce]

yeah, i see the pattern....

firaxis releases twice! once to get everyone to buy the test model, then again when they TRY to fix some of the problems and make the game complete by adding MP.

They just want to make more $$$. Anyone shocked by this? Not me.

I'll buy the incomplete, trial, buggy first version, and I'll shell out again when the complete version ships. Call me a sucker.

 

[CoolLizy]

Originally posted by lc3man
Free cell Lizzy not solitaire.

No, I meant solitare. Free Cell is just a form of it, and I don't like Free Cell anyhow. Really, though, it all comes down to this: MP is not better than SP, and SP is not better than MP. They are perfectly equal.
Now that we have both voiced our opinions we can all shut up. If you shut up about it, I will too. Thank you. I personally do not want to be banned.

 

[Mikeweather]

Voodo, guess you don't see the pattern. The patten is, that it's a SP game. MP is only added as an afterthought.

 

[CurtSibling]

For a million years, On a million worlds,

this totally boring SP vs MP rivalry has been
going on, and on, and on, and on, and on,

and on,

and on,

and on,

Look gentlemen, drop the fight.
It can't be won!

 

[stormerne]

OK. I've had enough of this thread. It's going nowhere except as flame fodder. I'm closing it.

Ic3man: you picked the wrong message board to start trolling. If you can't keep the "Civil" in "Civilization" in future, I'll have to recommend you get a posting vacation. You can make the points you want to make without being offensive or winding people up. Consider this a warning: you won't get another one.