No Science Leader and Military Leader

[firebead]

In my first 1.22 patched game (Demigod level), I am not able to get any science or military leaders at all! Though challenge, but it really make me upset!

I installed the 1.22 patch over my 1.15 beta. My question is, if I do a fresh install, am I be able to correct this problem with my old save game?

Anyone else encountered similar problem?

 

[CIVPhilzilla]

I haven't installed this patch yet, but I assume you can still get MGL and SGL, they don't come very frequently. Maybe your just having bad luck.

 

[firebead]

I played 1.15 beta, and can get 3-4 GSL at least.

 

[Master_Debater]

I'm playing 1.22, haven't got a science leader yet

 

[Catt]

The odds are long on generating leaders of either stripe. It's almost certainly just a run of luck. I've received several SGLs and MGLs in different v1.22 games.

 

[firebead]

Reloading seems not helping either

 

[Catt]

Originally posted by firebead
Reloading seems not helping either

Unless you have unchecked the option "preserve random seed" at the start of the game, reloading won't change your outcome.

But really, SGLs are pretty rare. Even with a scientific civ, there's only a 5% chance of an SGL each time you're the first to discover a new tech. Assume you established absolute tech dominance by the end of the ancient age -- from the middle ages on you're the first to discover every single technology, even the optional techs -- there are only 43 total techs through the entire middle and industrial ages. You might expect to get 2 SGLS (could easily have 0 or more than 2, too) through those two ages -- and again that's only if you discover every single technology before any AI does. Routinely getting 3 or 4 SGLs per game sounds incredibly unexpected, and I'd venture that you're setting your sights too high.

 

[gunsnroses]

i now have had a SGL once, thoug MGL comes very often with me, sometimes in one war 2 or 3, so i'm not complaining

 

[SesnOfWthr]

I'm not playin 1.22 yet, but isn't there an option to turn off SGL's? Is that what happened?

 

[gunsnroses]

i don't believe there is an option to turn them off, haven't seen it.
btw: i'm playing 1.22

 

[rychan]

I got 4 SGL playing through a monarch OCC game

It was almost frustrating. I didn't have anything to use them on, right away... so they just sat there... talking with eachother about science stuff I guess.

 

[Lab Monkey]

The option to turn off SGLs is the last in the victory conditions options box on the Civ select screen. On my version it's default setting was off, oddly.

 

[dreamvirus]

I have only got a SGL once. Seems they're pretty rare - and that's a good thing in my opinion, because the ability to rush a great wonder is pretty powerful...

 

[kokoras]

I play most of the games with the Greeks,which means that i sould have an higher chance of getting SGL.Thow it does not seem to be any easier on getting a SGL even if you play with a scientific civ.One is the most that i'll get if i get it,even if i am Tech advanced respect to the others.

 

[kokoras]

I play most of my games with the Greeks,which means that i sould have a higher chance of getting a SGL (Scientific civ) ,but it doesn't seem that it is that easy,even if i am scientific advanced respect to the other civs.

EDIT:Sorry for the second post but it seems that something isn't right with my Login (maybe).I 've posted in the thread,in the forums for Conquest there is my name for the last post but when i open the thread my post isn't there!

 

[nighthidesnot]

I've been playing a v1.22 game (Rhys Civ mod), and I'm up to year 1919. I have two SGLs that sit unused, although the second SGL arrived a few turns back. The first one arrived shortly after I was the first to discover Philosophy. I now start my games with researching Alphabet, Writing, Philosophy. I realize that when I move up to Emperor, this starting strategy may not work.

As for MGLs, I have had none, and that has been very frustrating! Although I haven't kept track of elite unit victories, it sure feels like I've had at least 200 up to now. The next game I play, I'm going to make it a point to track elite unit victories. In a way, it's a good thing. I'm so far ahead of the pack (playing as Germany), I'll spend the rest of the game working on my espionage abilities. As it stands now, it wouldn't be fair for me to have Army capabilities.

OTOH, screw fairness!!! I need to annihilate more enemies!!!