(NOT A BUG) Isabella gone from graphs

johnny_rico

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In a game I was playing I noticed when viewing the graphs that Isabella disappeared from them. She was still in the game and had a score but she didn't show up in the bar graph. Nor for GNP, gold, power, etc...

Perhaps she was a vassal at the time??? If so, I hadn't noticed this effect before during numerous warlords game.
 
In a game I was playing I noticed when viewing the graphs that Isabella disappeared from them. She was still in the game and had a score but she didn't show up in the bar graph. Nor for GNP, gold, power, etc...

Perhaps she was a vassal at the time??? If so, I hadn't noticed this effect before during numerous warlords game.

No, it means she has more espionage points than you. I think.
 
Oh, interesting. I had not considered that. They really won't show up on the graphs if they have more espionage invested than you? Strange, but I guess it works.
 
Oh, interesting. I had not considered that. They really won't show up on the graphs if they have more espionage invested than you? Strange, but I guess it works.

That's not correct. Each civ has a certain number of esp. points that you must invest in them to be able to see things, such as demographics (which, AFAIK, lets you see their position on the charts.) Regardless of whether you've invested more in them or vice-versa, if you've reached the requisite threshhold, you'll be able to see the demographic information. Check the espionage tab in your game, click on the desired civ and you'll see the number of points you've invested, and the number you need for the various threshholds (for demographic info, technology research, line of sight to cities, investigate cities.)

In any event, this does not sound like a bug.
 
That's not correct. Each civ has a certain number of esp. points that you must invest in them to be able to see things, such as demographics (which, AFAIK, lets you see their position on the charts.) Regardless of whether you've invested more in them or vice-versa, if you've reached the requisite threshhold, you'll be able to see the demographic information. Check the espionage tab in your game, click on the desired civ and you'll see the number of points you've invested, and the number you need for the various threshholds (for demographic info, technology research, line of sight to cities, investigate cities.)

In any event, this does not sound like a bug.

Isabella not showing up in the graphs is not a bug? She was still in the game and still had a score but her line was not present in any of the graphs.
 
Isabella not showing up in the graphs is not a bug? She was still in the game and still had a score but her line was not present in any of the graphs.

Click on the "espionage" advisor button, and you'll see a list of all civs, along with the number of EPs you need to accumulate against them in order to see the demographics.

This isn't a bug.
 
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Given that score is displayed regardless of EP I think that all known nations should show in the score graph.
For other graphs I think the nations with unknown values should still be listed in the key - probably without a coloured line.

On a related point it is odd that EP allows you to see, or not see, the values for all of history rather than the EP at a given time allowing you to see the value at that time - i.e. a graph with gaps where the EP was too low, or the empire unknown.
 
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