Not all Slavs are Russian, you know?

[Civ'ed]

The language of the Slavic Federation has to be Sorbian, else I'm not playing it! /s

 

[SamBC]

Probably because I made the link from general = part of a junta.

Hmm. Plenty of generals, I'd even go so far as to say most, aren't part of any military junta. This could perfectly well be a guy in the regular military who is selected to lead a colonising expedition - and historically a lot of colonies (by no means all) were started with a military governor.

 

[GeoModder]

This could perfectly well be a guy in the regular military who is selected to lead a colonising expedition...

Yes, that's what I've been posting all along.

 

[CaterpillarKing]

Yes, but not a one-way expeditions, where that very general will be a leader of a faction.

A country can be ruled by a military person or so and be free and not necessarily autocratic.




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[Trias]

A country can be ruled by a military person or so and be free and not necessarily autocratic.

In theory maybe. In practice not really.

 

[Mustakrakish]

Where was it said they have military bonuses? All I heard was +20% satellite duration.

 

[Krik_IDDQD]

Where was it said they have military bonuses? All I heard was +20% satellite duration.

SF: +20% satellite duration
PAC: Faster construction
Brasilia: Military bonus (unknown what)

From http://www.igromania.ru/articles/229836/Civilization_Beyond_Earth.htm

 

[Algeroth]

Oh, if the kozlov spoke in some of the panslavic esperantos, that would be so perfect!

 

[awesome]

A country can be ruled by a military person or so and be free and not necessarily autocratic.




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In theory maybe. In practice not really.

False. There are plenty of times in history when military men have been benevolent. And able governors.

 

[Fabio1701]

False. There are plenty of times in history when military men have been benevolent. And able governors.

General Eisenhower -> President Eisenhower
General Grant - > President Grant

 

[Krajzen]

Ultimate Badass Theodore Roosevelt -> Ultimate President Theodore Roosevelt


BTW given the Firaxis tendency to 'break stereotypes' of leaders in BE (black woman as president of America, Sino - Cambodian Sochua, Somali African leader) I would have nothing against Kozlov being Ucrainian

 

[0R4NG3]

Ultimate Badass Theodore Roosevelt -> Ultimate President Theodore Roosevelt


BTW given the Firaxis tendency to 'break stereotypes' of leaders in BE (black woman as president of America, Sino - Cambodian Sochua, Somali African leader) I would have nothing against Kozlov being Ucrainian

I agree, although Khrushchev was Ukrainian and Gorbachev was also sort of Ukrainian so in a way this would not be breaking any stereotypes at all )))

 

[awesome]

Stereotypes aren't necessarily true. Most people have no idea that those guys aren't Russian (same goes for Stalin and probably even Catherine).

 

[CaterpillarKing]

I agree, although Khrushchev was Ukrainian and Gorbachev was also sort of Ukrainian so in a way this would not be breaking any stereotypes at all )))

I guess the difference being that in this time (and probably in the SF) Ukraine and Russia were one entity. It isn't like saying a Ukranian leading Russia right now, it'd be like someone from Iberia in the Roman Empire ruling over Rome (which did happen). Ethnically though, they are different, sort of. Like how Canadians and Americans are "different".

 

[OldmansHQ]

Ok everyone! Here is a question: how do you see this federation happening? Russia conquers Poland? If that's the case then what is the point of the "Federation". I personally do not see it any other way. This very thread is a in-ya-face proof that mentality of Poles is absolute in its antagonism towards Russia. I know lots of Poles from different parts of Poland, they'd rather give their soul to the devil or worse - Americans (wink, wink) with cherry on top than become part of this state which will most likely be controlled by Russians. Perhaps it is unique, I also know Ukrainians and Belarussians, they don't seem to mind such situation, most of them that is.

 

[CommunistCookie]

General Eisenhower -> President Eisenhower
General Grant - > President Grant

Not necessarily disagreeing with the statement, but there needs to be a distinction between a 'military leader' and a leader who was once in the military.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Ok everyone! Here is a question: how do you see this federation happening? Russia conquers Poland? If that's the case then what is the point of the "Federation". I personally do not see it any other way. This very thread is a in-ya-face proof that mentality of Poles is absolute in its antagonism towards Russia. I know lots of Poles from different parts of Poland, they'd rather give their soul to the devil or worse - Americans (wink, wink) with cherry on top than become part of this state which will most likely be controlled by Russians. Perhaps it is unique, I also know Ukrainians and Belarussians, they don't seem to mind such situation, most of them that is.

Beyond Earth starts over two hundred years in the futue. Always keep in mind how the political landscape loked two hundred years ago. Germany and France were't even enemies because Germany didn't exist as a state.
There are lots of possibilities for a Slavic Federation two hundred years from now, and Russia doesn't even need to be the dominant country. Maybe Russia has lost Siberia andother eastern territories to China and is significantly smaller. Maybe it's a backwater. Maybe Russia and Poland are the big two like Germany and France today in the EU: Roughly equal competitors for power and influence, but not hostile to each other in any way. Maybe Russia is is like the UK in the EU: Always complaining and threatening to leave because of lingering superpower delusion. Maybe the Federation started when -after the dismantling of the EU- Yugoslavia was resurrected and slowly expanded towards the north and the east.

 

[GeoModder]

Ok everyone! Here is a question: how do you see this federation happening?

Spoiler :

"After the devastation in Siberia caused by extreme hostilities between the Russian Federation and Chinese Peoples Republic, much of this part of the continent was left a wasteland. Infrastructure was shattered, with no chance of rebuilding due to the economic collapse of both belligerents in the aftermath of the conflict. Neither of those nations could spare the resources needed to rebuild in Siberia simultaneously with maintaining sufficient prosperity for their citizens in their respective core lands.
In this vacuum, Mongolian tribesmen spread once again north and in time formed the Mongol Khuriltai, eventually establishing a presence in every inhabitable nook and corner in this still resource-rich part of the continent.
In time, domestic troubles and ecological changes forced both the Chinese and Russians to make common cause with their neighbors, which further led to the establishment of the Pan-Asian Cooperative and Slavic Federation."

Intentionally kept vague with dates, participants, and causes.

 

[poom3619]

Ok everyone! Here is a question: how do you see this federation happening? Russia conquers Poland? If that's the case then what is the point of the "Federation". I personally do not see it any other way. This very thread is a in-ya-face proof that mentality of Poles is absolute in its antagonism towards Russia. I know lots of Poles from different parts of Poland, they'd rather give their soul to the devil or worse - Americans (wink, wink) with cherry on top than become part of this state which will most likely be controlled by Russians. Perhaps it is unique, I also know Ukrainians and Belarussians, they don't seem to mind such situation, most of them that is.

Okay, I will answer the question that composed about one-tenth of your post.

It may happening due to collapse of EU. Like an financial crisis devalue euro and make most of Europe to disaster together, although on different magnitude. Internal war and sabotage make "Slavic people" to relied on Russian military to survive. USA indirectly support the war in "Franco-Iberia" side while China/PAU support "Slavic Federation", both in proxy war style. The war end up devastate Central Europe that being caught up in the crossfire while bring oversea investment to Africa, India and other regions that don't risk of invasion.

About the rest of your post, it might be offensive. Poles used to be under an entity named "Russian" in 200 years ago, to about 100 years ago (albeit not that "happily").
Although there might be an uprising, it does not guaranteed to be succeed.

 

[OldmansHQ]

All of the narratives are interesting, future is interesting. That said, Poland and Russia were rivals long before Russia was even formed. And their relations aren't getting any better and for a good reason (denied missile defense for example). I honestly doubt it will change in the next 200 years, in fact it might even get worse, so there's a paradox. The only thing that might change it is the supposed half-apocalypse, when landscapes are reshaped and borders along with it and when some nations are lost whilst others lose their identity. Very dramatic phrasing I know .