SunZsu
Chieftain
So when was Gandhi a pacifist? .... playing my final game of vanilla Civ 3 (before installing Conquest) ....
background: playing @ emperor level as Chinese, it's 1975 and down to 4 civs left, India in 1st place, me as Chinese in 2nd place down by 1000 pts, followed by France and Germany ....
got into a war with India (ok, so I provoked them
) all Civs have MA and MI, etc., however, Gandhi and French have nukes, I do NOT .... Germany joined me in an alliance ... India started out numerically superior, invaded my home country, and my forces cut their armor and inf to pieces at the border with arty, MA, and cruise missiles and bombers ... time for payback, so I invade Gandhi's country, pushing him back steadily until finally camping out next to one of his size 28 pop. cities located 3 cities away from his capital .... ask him to make piece and he offers money, but I want Fission - he says no and I say TS .... he attacks my stack with a few MAs and has no success - then all hell breaks loose ... he nukes 9 of my cities, and not just any cities, but I noticed that the attack completely isolated all of my remaining cities from all luxuries and strategic resources (and I have LOT of cities) .... and France, who has nukes, just sits back and does nothing (thanks, fellas, I'll remember you, too) .... anyway, I said the heck with this and re-played the turn and accepted Gandhi's peace offer (and then proceeded all out to research Fission) ...
then, a few turns later, and this is really bizarre IMHO, my adviser pops up and says India and France have signed an MPP (I'm thinking great, here comes round 2 - both of them at me from opposite directions), and then, DURING THE SAME TURN, my adviser pops up again and says that France declares war on India .... now get this, so on the SAME turn as these two sign an MPP they also go to war with each other .... did the AI have a brainfart, or what? ......
my 1st reaction is WTH, over .... so now I'm just sitting back watching them destroy each other while I'm rush building my spaceship .....
anyway, 1st lesson I guess is when AI feels threatened enough (and that's the key, how much is enough - anybody know?), then it'll use nukes 1st .... 2nd lesson - MPPs not always what they seem, I guess ..... weird ... wonder if this sort of stuff can hap[en in Conquest ....
post script .... 10 years later and I now have tactical nukes on nuclear subs, about ten of them sitting off Gandhi's coast ... so if he starts something now, we'll incinerate each other .... meanwhile it's fun watching India and France destroy each other
background: playing @ emperor level as Chinese, it's 1975 and down to 4 civs left, India in 1st place, me as Chinese in 2nd place down by 1000 pts, followed by France and Germany ....
got into a war with India (ok, so I provoked them
) all Civs have MA and MI, etc., however, Gandhi and French have nukes, I do NOT .... Germany joined me in an alliance ... India started out numerically superior, invaded my home country, and my forces cut their armor and inf to pieces at the border with arty, MA, and cruise missiles and bombers ... time for payback, so I invade Gandhi's country, pushing him back steadily until finally camping out next to one of his size 28 pop. cities located 3 cities away from his capital .... ask him to make piece and he offers money, but I want Fission - he says no and I say TS .... he attacks my stack with a few MAs and has no success - then all hell breaks loose ... he nukes 9 of my cities, and not just any cities, but I noticed that the attack completely isolated all of my remaining cities from all luxuries and strategic resources (and I have LOT of cities) .... and France, who has nukes, just sits back and does nothing (thanks, fellas, I'll remember you, too) .... anyway, I said the heck with this and re-played the turn and accepted Gandhi's peace offer (and then proceeded all out to research Fission) ... then, a few turns later, and this is really bizarre IMHO, my adviser pops up and says India and France have signed an MPP (I'm thinking great, here comes round 2 - both of them at me from opposite directions), and then, DURING THE SAME TURN, my adviser pops up again and says that France declares war on India .... now get this, so on the SAME turn as these two sign an MPP they also go to war with each other .... did the AI have a brainfart, or what? ......
my 1st reaction is WTH, over .... so now I'm just sitting back watching them destroy each other while I'm rush building my spaceship .....
anyway, 1st lesson I guess is when AI feels threatened enough (and that's the key, how much is enough - anybody know?), then it'll use nukes 1st .... 2nd lesson - MPPs not always what they seem, I guess ..... weird ... wonder if this sort of stuff can hap[en in Conquest ....
post script .... 10 years later and I now have tactical nukes on nuclear subs, about ten of them sitting off Gandhi's coast ... so if he starts something now, we'll incinerate each other .... meanwhile it's fun watching India and France destroy each other
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