Occupation Mod

macarde

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I'm just wondering if anyone has made a mod for the option to occupy a city rather then conquer it. It would work along the lines of the city/cities being mini-vassals until the previous owning civilization surrenders. This would be useful for several reasons. In historical scenarios, we didn't conquer France during World War II, we liberated. The same for Germany, we occupied it until they could rebuild into a democratic ally. Also it would be nice just for regular games to have an alternative to razing the city when it wouldn't be advantageous to just conquer it.
 
Excellent idea. Ive thought of this too, and thought it would be really cool if you could take cities you conquered and create a new state, and have a tight ally. Unfortunately i dont have the skill to be able to do this.
 
In our mod we're trying to modify what you can do after you occupy a city, but not in the sense you are looking for at the moment. We are playing around with a genocide feature (instead of razing), where you can cut down the population of the city, costing you relation points with other civs.

Excellent idea. Ive thought of this too, and thought it would be really cool if you could take cities you conquered and create a new state, and have a tight ally. Unfortunately i dont have the skill to be able to do this.

You can do that in standard BTS, on the city screen. You can pick groups of your cities to create a vassal state with.
 
@mechaerik - domestic advisor screen, colony button to be more specific.
 
Odd. Ive seen that but i thought that the cities needed to be on another cont
 
Well I guess I should be more specific to help give other people ideas. Maybe once you occupy the city only "civil" buildings and units can be built. That would go along with the rebuilding part of conquering them. But not necessarily vassals, I know what you're talking about with the colony button. The purpose of "occupying" the city would be more to deny the enemy use of the city until the end of the war. At which point when the war is declared over, those occupied cities immedietely return to their previous owner (Or not if you choose to keep them). This would be helpful for this reason: When you try to end the war through negotiations, only one side can make demands. So if you want them to adopt your religion and/or civics, or stop war with someone else, you can't do that and at the same time offer them their cities back. Being able to do so would open up scenarios of "peace-keeping" where your goal is to teach the aggressor a lesson, not out right rule them or destroy them.
 
I don't know if it's enough, but in FFH2 there's one civ that when conquer a city keeps the previous owner "culture", that is, can build stuff that the other civ can
 
The purpose of "occupying" the city would be more to deny the enemy use of the city until the end of the war. At which point when the war is declared over, those occupied cities immedietely return to their previous owner (Or not if you choose to keep them). This would be helpful for this reason: When you try to end the war through negotiations, only one side can make demands. So if you want them to adopt your religion and/or civics, or stop war with someone else, you can't do that and at the same time offer them their cities back. Being able to do so would open up scenarios of "peace-keeping" where your goal is to teach the aggressor a lesson, not out right rule them or destroy them.

I find it odd that you cant give the enemy their cities back and that only one side can get something.


IIRC, most peace treaties result in both sides making concessions to the other.:scan:
 
You can just capture a city and then gift it. Interesting thought: creating splinter civs on purpose (as opposed to them happening by revolution). Germany captures France and it stops existing. They then create Vichy France and gift part of the area formerly known as France to this newly created civ (but choosing to keep it a vassal). America captures the area back and creates a new Civ called France, as part of the process gifting its cities back to it and choosing to release it as a vassal.
 
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