Office of the Judiciary - Term 1

[FionnMcCumhall]

In CT's defense dis you do remember the forum was done on friday and saturday, so therefore she wasnt able to post it in enough time. Plus we had a small TC. I dont think we were originally going to have a turn chat on sunday but CT changed her mind and wanted to see how many people would show to it as it is my understanding. I think others asked her if there was to be a TC that night as well, She does give ample enough time in her schedules ive read that she has posted. Plus lately Governors and Leaders alike havent been posting their instructions because so early in the game its almost impossible to do so (due to making them so huge), and their have been the people who have called for a judicial review of each poll posted because they are unhappy with it. Personaly i think we should stop that and play the game.

For someone who hurt his hand he sure types alot

 

[disorganizer]

I dont complain about her having the chat nor about not having posted the turn-thread.
I definitely complain about the fact that her index-thread is not changed. It is the only index we have for the chats, and as such she must(!) take care of it.
The last chat in there is thursday (up to now=tuesday) and even the thursday chat is not correctly reflected there.

The only source of information we have for the chats must be kept in a good order! And Sunday+Monday should have been enough time, especially if there was enough time to take care of a chat on sunday at all (she even posted a turn-thread, so there would have been time to edit the index also).

And the thursday entry was put in there only after i complained in her office, and there was no forum outage at all to explain that one

And im typing left-handed right now...-P

And i only complained about one poll.

 

[disorganizer]

And if she has RL-Timing Problems, she can always appoint an office or give her vice the work

 

[Danke]

I believe a lot of the frustration surround this weekend's turn/chat and accompanying information was due to the site outtage. I would recommend that the President consider suspending or delaying turn/chats in response to extended outtages as a consideration to players who may not be able to access the forums during the brief window of opportunity prior to the turn/chat. I also applaud the decision to end the turn/chat when we met the English.

Now then, I need to get back to chasing ambulances or sleeping under my desk.....

 

[eyrei]

There is a clause in the constitution that states that the president and leaders are responsible for making all decisions in the event of a forum outage. There was absolutely nothing illegal about playing the turns. Personally, I would have no problem with removing this clause...

 

[Chieftess]

Besides, the next turn chats where in the Upcoming Turn Chat thread.

 

[Octavian X]

We can solve this problem simply.

Chieftess, could set a certain amount of advance time we know about a chat? Perhaps in a thread somehwhere, post the times for the chats of the next two weeks.

In addition to that, after the final save of a chat is posted, put up the next chat thread.

We all know in advance, all are happy. It's about as hard to post a thread as upload a save.

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

Originally posted by disorganizer
What about my review request?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=487280#post487280

I have reviewed the poll, and see no legal problem with it.

The poll reflects the discussed proposal by the author. I do not believe that a poll has to include every idea posted in a thread, just a discussion of the ideas, and hopefully a concensus of the best ones, but that is difficult to enforce.

I personally, would have included the spot 2 tiles nw of #1, but that is personal preference and why I voted "other".

I disagree with the Chief Justice, in that I feel this poll is meeting all requirements for an official poll.

Bill
Judge Advocate

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

Originally posted by Octavian X
Hey! I just found out Bill and I violated the CoL. Those whom we appointed while we were out needed to be confirmed by the citizens in a poll.

As I noted in the post above, I disagree with this statement.

I believe that the term appoint means that the office holder can appoint their stand in. No where in the laws does it indicate that such a vote is needed for the temporary stand in.

Bill
Judge Advocate

 

[Octavian X]

When I mentioned we needed a poll, I was refering to Section H.5 of the CoL.

5. Pro-Tem Justice, Defendant, Advocate
A. Appointed by the Public Defender, Judge Advocate, and Chief Justice respectively.
B. Confirmed by a poll of the citizenrey. Simple majority required.

I'm just saying that the pro-tem official counldn't do anything that the acutal official legally.

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

Doh! You are right.

I swear I seached everywhere to find that, but couldn't.

Well, I suppose I have to self-report myself to the court for violating the code of laws.

Bill
Judge Advocate

 

[Shaitan]

PI's for everybody!

j/k

 

[Octavian X]

Bill, in the last turn chat, donsig was banned from it. As the Judge Advocate, you need to investigate this action by Chieftess (reference: CoS Section H.8). In fact, I'm not even sure if this occured during or after the actual chat. If it was afterwards, no actions need to be taken. If it was during the actual chat, you need to investigate.

Please look into this further, as I don't have much time to do so.

Thanks,
Octavian

 

[Chieftess]

It did occur after the turn chat. The game save and log were up, and the chat ended. I was merely doing my duties as a chat op.

 

[FionnMcCumhall]

what CT said. And donsig wasnt the only one banned but i welcome my vacation from chat to concentrate on other things see ya in the forums

 

[Octavian X]

OK, then, there is no need to investigate the matter, unless donsig wants to bring up specific charges for a PI (or vice-versa )

 

[donsig]

Originally posted by Octavian X
OK, then, there is no need to investigate the matter, unless donsig wants to bring up specific charges for a PI (or vice-versa )

I do not want to initiate a PI. Anyone who wants to PI me is welcome to do so.

I would like to know how I can get this ban lifted. Chieftess has decreed that the ban would be lifted if I apologize to Fionn and I refuse to do that for there is nothing to apologize for! Am I at her mercy on this?

 

[eyrei]

Originally posted by donsig


I do not want to initiate a PI. Anyone who wants to PI me is welcome to do so.

I would like to know how I can get this ban lifted. Chieftess has decreed that the ban would be lifted if I apologize to Fionn and I refuse to do that for there is nothing to apologize for! Am I at her mercy on this?

Chieftess has shortened the ban to 1 day, so it should not inconvenience you too much.

 

[Octavian X]

Sorry, but all of this is out of the hands of Fanatika. You will need to take this up with either CT, of the mighty Thunderfall himself.

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

If anyone wishes to call for a PI of myself or Octavian for inadvertantly violating the code of laws with our temporary appointees, please say so now, or I will close the matter.

Bill
Judge Advocate