One Last Hand [WW/Mafia, Play In-Progress]

[Rakkoon]

It's no fun if the teacher says you can

 

[Snerk]

Can we lynch at night too?

 

[Apollo's Extrails]

Well night should be up right now. So, Technically not for that but due to the fact you could post during the real life night.

 

[AvatarKhepri]

Night 1 ends

Before they'd gotten more than a few more hands into the game, a few members of security converged on the table. "Excuse me, sir," they said very unpolitely to one of the players. "Our security cameras have caught you sneaking in extra aces. You're banned from further competition in the tournament." The man protests, but his words fall on deaf ears as security hauls him away from the table, and one of the security guards tips his hat to the rest of you with a smile before walking off.

Murska was kicked out of the casino. They were a Gambler.

Day 2 begins, and will end in ~48 hours.

Note to self: in future nights, post scry results privately before kill results publicly. Everybody, your results are in-progress, it just takes 3 minutes between conversation replies, so it's gonna be a bit before everybody has their answers. My apologies.

 

[AvatarKhepri]

Alrighty, all scries have been answered, go nuts.

 

[Snerk]

TBH I'm not that much more wiser.

That being said, Rakkoon is evil. Or not. Defend thine self, villain!

 

[Yakostovian]

TBH I'm not that much more wiser.

That being said, Rakkoon is evil. Or not. Defend thine self, villain!

I take it that means your scan result said rakkoon was a villain?

 

[Xym]

My results from the night are these!

Snerk is town. Yakostovian is mafia. Topsecret is mafia.

 

[topsecret]

My results from the night are these!

Snerk is town. Yakostovian is mafia. Topsecret is mafia.

Well, Xym, I disagree with your third point. I am not mafia. That is a false result!

All three of my scans said they were mafia.
1. Snerk
2. Rakkoon
3. Takhisis

However, at least two of these are wrong.

I know Xym's third result is false. I don't know about Yako. I got a mafia result on Snerk.

This means that, assuming (1) Xym is not lying, (2)I am telling the truth, (3)No one messed with our scan results:
1. If Xym is the Gambler, either Snerk or Yako is mafia. (2/3 false)
2. If Xym is the Champ, Snerk is not mafia and Yako is mafia. (1/3 false)
3. If Xym is Beginner's Luck, Snerk is mafia and Yako is not mafia. (3/3 false)

Lots of assumptions up there, but at least it is something to think about.

 

[topsecret]

However, at least two of these are wrong.

This, and my discussion on Xym's results, could obviously be altered by:

Ace Up My Sleeve: Every night, you select one person. One of their true scries becomes a false scry (except if they are Beginner's Luck, in which case this effect is reversed).
Sore Loser: You are always falsely scried by Gamblers and Beginner's Luck; Champ can get a true scry on you, but does not do so automatically. If you would die, you take somebody with you.

 

[Xym]

That's really interesting.
I found one issue, though.

1. If Xym is the Gambler, either Snerk or Yako is mafia. (2/3 false)

This isn't necessarily the case if the accurate scry is Snerk, because then both are town.
That'd also mean the Snerk scry on yours is false.

I'm still mulling things over.

Also, I think Rakkoon's post close to the end of the day phase is kinda odd.

Unvote, vote Arakhor

I understand the TopS vote, he's defending himself. The rest are a bit weird. I was quiet because I was at a BBQ and it got late

4 way ties are not easy to read into, agree murska there and I also agree that only wolves care which place on the bandwagon you take.

The votes were apparently weird but vote: Rakkoon hopped on the Arakhor wagon anyway and I don't remember seeing reasoning earlier.

 

[topsecret]

That's really interesting.
I found one issue, though.

This isn't necessarily the case if the accurate scry is Snerk, because then both are town.
That'd also mean the Snerk scry on yours is false.

Good point. Somehow I missed that...

I'm still mulling things over.

Also, I think Rakkoon's post close to the end of the day phase is kinda odd.

The votes were apparently weird but vote: Rakkoon hopped on the Arakhor wagon anyway and I don't remember seeing reasoning earlier.

Sigh. We just don't know. But I will vote:Rakkoon. If he is not guilty, that leaves Tak or Snerk. An all mafia result was great, unless the Ace is in the game and targeted me that means one of my three is mafia.

 

[topsecret]

My results from the night are these!

Snerk is town. Yakostovian is mafia. Topsecret is mafia.

There is also the possibility Xym and Snerk are mafia partners.

Time will tell.

 

[Yakostovian]

I know that topsecret and rakkoon are on the same team. I don't know which team.

 

[Rakkoon]

It could be that TopS is town too but we are not in contact with each other.
My scans:
Murska, Xym and Takhisis are mafia

Either I am fantastic at guessing or my results are not perfect. Murska is town (who knew?). Tak keeps coming up as evil in scy results.

Vote: Takhisis

 

[Xym]

I don't think Takhisis coming up as mafia in results consistently indicates being mafia necessarily especially given results are either always correct or always incorrect. Therefore, if all of the results are gamblers so far (it's important not to rule out that a champ/beginner's luck has posted theirs or that a mafia is trying to mess with the data by posting some as well) then it's more likely for town to come up as mafia.

None of the OP's roles were perfect, even champs. (Ironically, the closest to being perfect are Beginner's Luck). That being said, I don't think this setup is truly open especially considering the Yako roleclaim so I wouldn't be surprised if there were curveballs.

Rakkoon's are the most interesting to me if Rakkoon isn't mafia trying to throw us off or a power isn't messing things up. I know I'm Town, so if Rakkoon's role is not Beginner's Luck I know Takhisis is Mafia because I'm Town and Murska is a dead Town so there's your two false scans. I'm trying to think if Mafia-Rakkoon would make up and craft those results specifically since they're kinda risky largely due to the inclusion of Murska. I'm going to change to pressure vote for unvote; vote: Apollo's Extrails for the moment. What do you think so far? Any leans?

I like putting this sort of thing together, so, we have...

Xym scanned

• Snerk as Town
• Yakostavian as Mafia
• TopSecret as Mafia

TopSecret scanned

• Snerk as Mafia
• Rakkoon as Mafia
• Takhisis as Mafia

Rakkoon scanned

• Murska as Mafia
• Xym as Mafia
• Takhisis as Mafia

Yako scanned Topsecret and Rakkoon as on the same team.

 

[Apollo's Extrails]

Alright i think we should lynch Vote:Rakkoon honestly. Takhisis isn't really helped with my scry since it could be the false one. I did tell you Topsecret i would scry you the first night, and your bias on takhisis is always a wolf made me scry him.
I scried 3 people last night.
Takhisis
Topsecret
Xym
So i don't really know who's who right now honestly. But here's the important thing. We can figure this out. I mean I can't but we can. We have no idea how many wolves there are. Hopefully it's just two or god bless one but it's possible there are three. Now we have to examine what's what. Alright now let's examine this mess.
Snerk one scry for one scry against.
Yakostavian one scry against.
Topsecret 2 scries against. and if he is a wolf having three town he knows is town scry as mafia is a pretty clever ploy. I wouldn't trust him in any case.
Rakkoon 2 scries against. which makes sense with yako's scries though it's extremely nebulous as if topsecret was mafia rakkoon would also be mafia.
Takhisis 2 scries against 1 scry for. The 1 scry for actually makes me trust him though that might be bias since i was the one who scried him
Murska 1 scry against too few
Xym 2 scries against. 1 is from rakkoon who i can't trust atm, and 1 is from me, and i don't think he's my true scry.
and Apparently no one scried me.
So right now i think topsecret, and rakkoon are both mafia. They both only scried mafia so it would make sense they're trying to do the same ploy if they're both mafia right? This is my logic in any case.

 

[topsecret]

Nope. I am not mafia. Why would I vote for my mafia partner if he already had two votes?

 

[topsecret]

Also, if I were a mafia member, I wouldn't have killed Murska.

 

[topsecret]

I know that topsecret and rakkoon are on the same team. I don't know which team.

If this is true, my Rakkoon scry is false. That leaves Tak/Snerk.