"Operation Black Metal"

[Provolution]

General Cyc

Your mission would on the basis of this poll would be to seize primarily Tugela, then successively Isandhlwana and Mpondo. If you can manage to take all these cities within one turnchat, that is fine, if not, we will negotiate a peace settlement settling with Tugela only. This is still a retaliatory plan, and the mandate of this poll would be used to sanction the extent of rour conquest in order to preempt future criticism.

We should now ask the Zulus politely to leave our land, and if they fail to do so, we automatically order operation "Black Metal". I will also ask Grand Admiral Ali if
he wants his Imperial Commando to take part in the Campaign. I will also ask for the Iroqi Military Police in Salamanca to join this potential war. We use elites first, then veterans, and we hope for Great Leaders to emerge.

I will also call for General Cyc to prepare a Battle Plan

 

[Chieftess]

Right. We must never forget how the Iroquois attacked us in the same way. From the sounds of it, the Zulus want their coal city back (the one that flipped to us). We have a rail-net in place, so that will make it easy to bring troops to the front. TOO easy in fact. We should build up some cavs, too. Increase our military spending.

 

[Provolution]

No need Chieftess

We take Zulus with our little finger

We send in 7 Elite Samurai, Helloween Knight and a cannon to Tugela
2 regular Pikemen and 3 elite swords to the mountain on the border

General Cycs Army and military dixtrict will handle incursions and take Mpondo and Izandhlwana.

I also want to announce a new Military position for this war alone.

Commander of Fort Black Mountain

3 Elite Swordsmen (Salamanca)
2 Regular Pikes (Corrino and Engha)
2 cannons

 

[blackheart]

Provo, why not change this plan so we cap Mpondo first, thereby securing the iron for ironworks?

 

[Chieftess]

We still do have our cavalry... don't we? I see no mention of our cavs.

 

[Ginger_Ale]

There are 6 Cavalry and 5 Cannons in Regent Town not being used - why don't we use them? Regent Town has a good amount of spt, and has all improvements basically. It can just pump out units. If we do declare war on the Zulu, let's make it a quick one...

 

[Provolution]

We have plenty of units, and better quality.
I intend to use obsolete elites, and see if we get any great leaders, and mop up with Cavalry. I have different war aims than just rolling over cavalry. Heroic Epic increases the
chance of great leaders, so that is my final word. Next, I call in arty strikes to wear them down.

 

[blackheart]

We have plenty of units, and better quality.
I intend to use obsolete elites, and see if we get any great leaders, and mop up with Cavalry. I have different war aims than just rolling over cavalry. Heroic Epic increases the
chance of great leaders, so that is my final word. Next, I call in arty strikes to wear them down.

What about capping Mpondo first and guaranteeing we get Ironworks?!

 

[Provolution]

Mpondo is subject to be taken as nr 2, as Tugela is the first city to be taken.
Doctrine polled this.

 

[Epimethius]

Wait...I thought the idea was to found a city on the border, not to then declare war.

I never supported this, but now I outright hate it. The idea was to build an iron works, not conquer the Zulu on the clause "you won't leave the land I stole from you." This is just another pathetic attempt at leading us into a war by tricking us into thinking it won't do that.

 

[blackheart]

Mpondo is subject to be taken as nr 2, as Tugela is the first city to be taken.
Doctrine polled this.

Here's the time when you can say "screw the doctrine". Iron Works is more important than diamonds right now, considering that we would only gain one diamond.

The plan that was polled is a few hundred years old and didn't consider that we would be able to build Iron Works.

 

[Nobody]

*looks at the carved sign that sits in salamanca with the words "Never Again"*

 

[Provolution]

Make up Blackheart, you argued against Iron Works when it was peace. Now that is a potential war, you argue for Iron Works, in order to beat on my doctrine. You seem to attack me continuously, but now I do indeed have WOTP backing.

We take out Tugela, that is their smallest loss, and then we go for Mpondo and Izandhlwana later on. You are also wrong on the tile coverage, we will indeed get that iron right away when we settle. Mpondo is not critical to IRon Works, but will help.

The last diamond will increase diamond value tremendously.

 

[blackheart]

Make up Blackheart, you argued against Iron Works when it was peace. Now that is a potential war, you argue for Iron Works, in order to beat on my doctrine. You seem to attack me continuously, but now I do indeed have WOTP backing.

We take out Tugela, that is their smallest loss, and then we go for Mpondo and Izandhlwana later on. You are also wrong on the tile coverage, we will indeed get that iron right away when we settle. Mpondo is not critical to IRon Works, but will help.

The last diamond will increase diamond value tremendously.

Are you seriously blind and impervious to reason? I will say it again, I AM FOR IRON WORKS, I merely pointed out the fact that a culture war to get the iron tile is going to take a while. And no we can't get the iron right away, unless we settle right on the border, which would hamper the city's effective tile usage.

What WOTP backing?

 

[Provolution]

In case of war, we take Tugela.

 

[Provolution]

However, chance is big we may take Mpondo as well, but we will poll this after Tugela, if we want to extend with Mpondo and Izandhlwana. It is an end to messy borders.

 

[blackheart]

In case of war, we take Tugela.

We have time for a repoll and reopen discussion on this. Something from a few hundred years back can't seriously be considered the WOTP anymore.

 

[Provolution]

We will. This is the discussion.

 

[Crimso]

Can we, like, stop taking land from other civ's? The MSAV's need for 'clean borders' means that taking any one city entails grabbing up two more, and that means conquering a pretty big slice of a nation like Zululand. The best way we can stop ourselves from totally decimating another civ is by not taking a single city. The Iro war was just a huge slippery slope, resulting in us taking way more than we should have.

We are big enough. We don't have to prove anything. We've taken advantage of every situation thus far (that is not to say some hard work hasn't been put in). If we follow this Doctrine we'll have a monopoly on gems (they're gems people), we'll build Iron Works, and there is a chance we'll catch a GL. And China is the one out of control.

I implore my fellow citizens to not support any more offensive wars. The most force I can accept in attacking the Zulu back is bombarding the infastructure on some border towns, or sending a mighty stack in to scare Shaka into peace.

Provolution, now it is your turn to attack my generalizations.

 

[Provolution]

We will seize Tugela in the first Turnchat, granted Zulu declares war.
Then, we will rediscuss and repoll Mpondo and Isandhlwana in next term.