Over population

Elta

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I read every thing I could on Wiki about Over population ..and I wonder
could it be possible. (at least in 1st world nations) that instead of widespread famine, food just jumps from being 10% of a family of fours income to like 33 - 50% or so. Then people just decide to have less kids?

/add you own opinios on Over population
 
I think it's very difficult for people to "decide to have less kids", I think the idea of over population is a very growing concern but didn't I hear population levels will peak around the ten bill mark by 2050? or was that something else?
 
Europes population is pretty stagnant, so it wont have much impact here, the US has more space than it knows what to do with, as does China who given modern farming techniques could feed the world three times over. I've heard the arguments about over population but to be honest I've seen estimates of the world population peaking at around nine billion, which it would in theory be easy to feed. I'll worry about this when I see some evidence of it. Global warming troubles me more currently but that is OT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpopulation

Just read most of this, and I see that 9.1 is the figure, good another 100 million lives:)

I studied logistic models a while back and given the statistical data, which is mind numbingly simple the projections do come out at around nine billion, so I believe it after all I've worked it out for myself, seeing is believing :)
 
If it does become overpopulated, then people will start to die off. It may be unpleasent from a humanitarian perspective, but it will balance nature's books.
 
I'm not sure about the exact name of this, but was I right in hearing that in places like China and India it's becoming very top heavy in reference to the boy/girl ratio as more families want to have boy's?
 
steviejay said:
I'm not sure about the exact name of this, but was I right in hearing that in places like China and India it's becoming very top heavy in reference to the boy/girl ratio as more families want to have boy's?

China, I believe. Strange though, as if you keep having children until you have a boy, statistically you should end up with 50/50 split. There must be problems with infanticide and selective abortion in the country.
 
infanticide! that was the word I was looking for yeah. I don't know all the details so please do not take my words as a personal slur on your country if you're from there. I just remember reading something about it.

I think overpopulation is a problem as I said, but there's still a great deal of places to live on the planet. Feeding those people.... thats another issue.
 
Truronian said:
China, I believe. Strange though, as if you keep having children until you have a boy, statistically you should end up with 50/50 split. There must be problems with infanticide and selective abortion in the country.

I've read a little this is a bit OT but here's some links I just browsed and then browsed.

http://www.gendercide.org/case_infanticide.html

Interesting link. politicised but still worth looking at.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A77925-2001May25

XICUN VILLAGE, China -- Not much seems to have changed in Xicun, a cliff-side village deep in the mountains of southern Guangxi province. Except when you scan the birth records.

Last year, 20 children were born to the women of Xicun. Sixteen were boys. The year before, 24 were born and 19 were boys. There is a reason for the preponderance of males: In 1999, the medical center that serves Xicun bought a cheap, Chinese-made ultrasound machine that allowed doctors to determine the sex of a fetus. Sex-selective abortions followed. And now the town, like hundreds of others in China, is facing a boom in boys.
Recent census figures show that 117 boys are born in China for every 100 girls. Boys are even more prevalent in rural areas, where they are needed to work and eventually inherit the land. (Stephen Shaver - AFP)

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Sex-selective abortions, infanticide and significant differences in children's access to medical care are contributing to an increasingly skewed sex ratio in China's countryside, Western and Chinese researchers say. Figures released this year as part of China's census show there are 117 boys born for every 100 girls.
 
I've read a little this is a bit OT but here's some links I just browsed and then browsed.
Off topic in one of my threads non sense there is no off topic - free your mind and the post will follow :king:
 
Elta said:
Off topic in one of my threads non sense there is no off topic - free your mind and the post will follow :king:

Understood El capitan:salute::)
 
117:100 is a worrying figure, something needs to be done. Maybe extra child benefits for girls? This could counter the increaesed value of boys for labor in rural areas. The problem is that China's governemt is hardly the most reliable when it comes to socialist policies.
 
Several millions of frustrated mateless boys will have their uses. These guys would make the best soldiers. :mischief:
 
We as a globel population will need to consume less and employ sustainable technology. (zero impact to the enviroment is possible such as carbo neutral fuels)
 
Overpopulation now may be a problem for Africa and to some extend Asia, but it doesn't have much impact on Europe and America, and an increased boy/grl ratio will slow down population growth.

But when every Chinese and Indian owns a car and uses as much water, electricity and fuel as an average American we'll have to find some new planets to exploit...
 
Elta said:
Canibaism once you pop you just can stop

Dosnt that lead to CJD ???
 
I figure just let the developing nations become developed nations so that all the nations have a decent living level. Eventually the population will level off and probably drop as women will be working in careers in those poorer nations much like in the developed world today. Very much like Europe as it is highly developed.
 
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