Pact of Nilhorn

Bad Player said:
IMO it is unfair that aggressive civs don't get combat 1 and combat 2 if they build Pact of the Nilhorn. Should this be changed?
IMO It should have to be earned like the animals and other units do if it is brought back......just because the bombard and pillage are great doesn't mean that they shouldn't be able to earn a little experience.......but I don't think they should start with the combat promotion or the balance issue goes the other way or at least the complaints do if someone else makes it first.
 
Maybe aggressive civs should get Combat II as a free promotion?
 
Oh, I thought you were implying that aggressive civs should receive both Combat I and Sombat II once Pact of Nilhorn would be build...
 
I'm confused - I thought combat 2 would mean that you get +20% strength???*

As it stands, agressive civs get combat 1 just like non-aggressive civs.


*This is why I called myself Bad Player - forgive my lack of knowledge but I thought combat 2 gives you combat 1 but maybe not?
 
It's been changed to show the most advanced promotion in the line, it doesn't mean that you would have Combat I... You could still get Combat I if you wanted to.
 
When a first read this wonder's description, I thought it grants peace with the barbarians, like the trait.

May I propose this idea for a new wonder? Alternatively, Pact of Nilhorn could give a short peace with the barbarians, something like 20 or 30 turns.
 
Bad Player said:
I played epic and built pact of the nilhorn and my 3 giants got wasted very quickly by enemy hunters (who had been leveled up from killing barbs). Not happy jan!

Don't tell, playing as Lanun on Noble, Large, I lost all of them too hunters :(. At least the next game, as I had the hero from Overlord, I destroyed those bastards :D
 
YohanLeafheart said:
Don't tell, playing as Lanun on Noble, Large, I lost all of them too hunters :(. At least the next game, as I had the hero from Overlord, I destroyed those bastards :D

It would be nice to have a revenge system. If you received something for avenging one's death...
 
So did the 3 Giants get renamed into Moe, Larry and Curly in 0.15 or did I miss this from a previous version, was very funny.
 
Nimbus said:
So did the 3 Giants get renamed into Moe, Larry and Curly in 0.15 or did I miss this from a previous version, was very funny.

Thats new based on someone here calling them the stooges, so I slipped it in.
 
None of my Hill Giants have ever had any combat promotions upon creation.

Is this an error on my end, and if not, why is there so much discussion about free promotions for them?
 
Grillick said:
None of my Hill Giants have ever had any combat promotions upon creation.

Is this an error on my end, and if not, why is there so much discussion about free promotions for them?


Before they had bombardment the giants used to spawn in with Combat I, they lost that when they gained bombard and pilliaging abilities.

The thing is, it's entirely possible for the pact to be built when giants are so completely outclassed that you never use them for anything but bombardment (personally, hasteable catapults are pretty solid, and I don't mind using them like that), so people are thinking of souping them up.
 
No, seriously. I mean none of them have EVER had combat promotions. In .014, .013, etc.
 
Grillick said:
No, seriously. I mean none of them have EVER had combat promotions. In .014, .013, etc.

There was never a public version where they started with Combat I. I had it in my copy for a little while until someone came up with the bombardment idea, at which point I removed the Combat I and added bombardment instead.
 
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