PAE VII (Jan 2025)
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Patch 7.6 is online (download thread):
-) Bugfix: Domestic Advisor (SPECIALBUILDING_TEMPLE)
-) Bugfix: leaderheads: diplomacy and city music (some leaders didn't work)
-) Bugfix: some wrong letters in pedia texts
-) Bugfix: special trade bonus (camel archer unitclass instead unit)
-) Update: long sword topic
-) Update: parthian shot promotion
-) Updates in late antiquity (techs, crossbow)
(not save game compatible)
-) Bugfix: Domestic Advisor (SPECIALBUILDING_TEMPLE)
-) Bugfix: leaderheads: diplomacy and city music (some leaders didn't work)
-) Bugfix: some wrong letters in pedia texts
-) Bugfix: special trade bonus (camel archer unitclass instead unit)
-) Update: long sword topic
-) Update: parthian shot promotion
-) Updates in late antiquity (techs, crossbow)
(not save game compatible)
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Patch 7.7 is available (download thread):
-) bugfix: city state in advanced games
-) city states can create emigrants (they can't found cities anyway)
-) bugfix: early temples (Special_Building_Temple completely removed)
-) Alphabetical order of cities in go2city-popup and trade route advisor (capital is shown first)
-) possible bugfix: black hole (?!)
(not save game compatible)
-) bugfix: city state in advanced games
-) city states can create emigrants (they can't found cities anyway)
-) bugfix: early temples (Special_Building_Temple completely removed)
-) Alphabetical order of cities in go2city-popup and trade route advisor (capital is shown first)
-) possible bugfix: black hole (?!)
(not save game compatible)
Patch 7.8 is now available (download thread):
- New feature: City fires (see City Concept)
- Foreign Advisors adapted to the PAE GUI
- Bugfix: PAE_Christians
- New feature: Religious Conflicts (Part 1): poly->mono
- Updated feature: Religious Conflicts (Part 2): mono->poly
- In progress: Religious Conflicts (Part 3): Christians internal
- Bugfix: HolyMountainEvent
- Hunters can now also build watchtowers with money
- DomesticAdvisor: Donkey added
(31 files have been changed)
- New feature: City fires (see City Concept)
- Foreign Advisors adapted to the PAE GUI
- Bugfix: PAE_Christians
- New feature: Religious Conflicts (Part 1): poly->mono
- Updated feature: Religious Conflicts (Part 2): mono->poly
- In progress: Religious Conflicts (Part 3): Christians internal
- Bugfix: HolyMountainEvent
- Hunters can now also build watchtowers with money
- DomesticAdvisor: Donkey added
(31 files have been changed)
A new update is available in the download thread. With 2 new interesting features!
UPDATES 7.9:
- Bugfix: HolyMountain
- New feature: Elephants can spread ele bonus in jungle when there is no bonus and more than 50% jungle around 5x5
- Legio Imperialis: ST 15 (instead of 14)
- Bugfix: ICON BULLET
- Bugfix: Build limes button on forbidden terrain
- less huns on advanced starts
- less brothel warnings (and effects)
- GUI update: Terrain that can't be settled
- GUI update: Money warning if improvement cost > player's gold
- GUI update: no movement on terrain/features (units, plots)
- GUI update: chariots: movement on forests: road required
- New feature: Great Prophets now can terraform desert to plains or tundra to grassland (removes unit then)
- GUI: for scenarios: main interface players list: no (static) civ button (was in a wrong color)
savegame compatible to 7.8
UPDATES 7.9:
- Bugfix: HolyMountain
- New feature: Elephants can spread ele bonus in jungle when there is no bonus and more than 50% jungle around 5x5
- Legio Imperialis: ST 15 (instead of 14)
- Bugfix: ICON BULLET
- Bugfix: Build limes button on forbidden terrain
- less huns on advanced starts
- less brothel warnings (and effects)
- GUI update: Terrain that can't be settled
- GUI update: Money warning if improvement cost > player's gold
- GUI update: no movement on terrain/features (units, plots)
- GUI update: chariots: movement on forests: road required
- New feature: Great Prophets now can terraform desert to plains or tundra to grassland (removes unit then)
- GUI: for scenarios: main interface players list: no (static) civ button (was in a wrong color)
savegame compatible to 7.8
if the greatnet-link doesn't work: https://d102582.odilo.greatnet.de/data/public/525c51b21e5cc07c988ab2b0d7346fd9.php?lang=en
did you try the links on moddb.com: https://www.moddb.com/mods/pies-ancient-europe/downloads
?
did you try the links on moddb.com: https://www.moddb.com/mods/pies-ancient-europe/downloads
?
Something seems to be really wrong with religion in this version. Here is what happened in my Rome game:
XXXL52Scenario, I developed quickly, got entire Italy, Magna Graecia and Gallia Cisalpina, something about 18 cities, in that time I also had a single war against Salluvians. Got a single Emigrants and I've decided to settle them in what basically was Naples. At that time no religion was present in Western Europe, no Nordic or Celtic. But as soon as Nordic religion was established a weird stuff started to happen. Every city not only in my civ, but also in other civs that were fighting and won against countries that converted to Nordic, flipped to Nordic at growing a new PoP. In just 30 turns, every single city in France, Italy, Germany and Spain was Nordic.
I assume that this:
-) Python: Emigrants spread religion too
-) Python: Settlers spread state religion when city is built
-) Python event: refugees come with religion too
Is responsible and honestly it makes mod unplayable in current state.
XXXL52Scenario, I developed quickly, got entire Italy, Magna Graecia and Gallia Cisalpina, something about 18 cities, in that time I also had a single war against Salluvians. Got a single Emigrants and I've decided to settle them in what basically was Naples. At that time no religion was present in Western Europe, no Nordic or Celtic. But as soon as Nordic religion was established a weird stuff started to happen. Every city not only in my civ, but also in other civs that were fighting and won against countries that converted to Nordic, flipped to Nordic at growing a new PoP. In just 30 turns, every single city in France, Italy, Germany and Spain was Nordic.
I assume that this:
-) Python: Emigrants spread religion too
-) Python: Settlers spread state religion when city is built
-) Python event: refugees come with religion too
Is responsible and honestly it makes mod unplayable in current state.
Good issue. Wow, with this example, we can simulate the quick ethnic mix of Europe all the time 
But of course, it's a bit overpowered for playability. I'd still like to know what happens next. Have newer religions the chance to spread well, or will remain the first religion the state religion forever.
PLAN B: I could give emigrants, settlers, and refugees only monotheistic religions.
But of course, it's a bit overpowered for playability. I'd still like to know what happens next. Have newer religions the chance to spread well, or will remain the first religion the state religion forever.
PLAN B: I could give emigrants, settlers, and refugees only monotheistic religions.
Belgae who got the Celtic Religion tech, were already bombed with Nordic, they didn't flip and the Holy City is no more. There are 4 cities total with Celtic religion. One in Wales, one in Spain and the last two are my own cities, which never had any contact with Salluvian emigrants, I only settled there some Illyrians, but those Illyrians never converted to any religion before being destroyed and yes those two cities also randomly converted to Hellenic despite no contact with any Greeks. Also neither civ in Britain converted.
The main problem with all of this is that you are kinda forced to pick Henotheism, because your cities are hit with random religion spread, so you are always getting that nasty happiness malus. And even when you remove unwanted religion, the same religion or another unwanted will show up on a city growth. I already can see this happen after getting a couple of Canaanites from Carthage.
OK thanks for that feedback, I have to change that a bit.
My plan for the next patch was to reduce the malus of removing religions, because of its quick spreading. But I will of course reduce the spreading perhaps with a neutral emigrant first....
The religion project is and will be a very big one in PAE! So it will take some time to find the best playable settings.
My plan for the next patch was to reduce the malus of removing religions, because of its quick spreading. But I will of course reduce the spreading perhaps with a neutral emigrant first....
The religion project is and will be a very big one in PAE! So it will take some time to find the best playable settings.
Sadly in Civ4 there is no way to represent religion and culture as it's possible in Paradox games, like for example Imperator:Rome. Good luck with trying to make religion work.
But enough about Gods, let's instead have a quick chat about Goats. Do you have any plans to implement them as the worst food source, that could be spread in basically all type of rough terrain?
And if we are at the goats, there is a certain type of food processing that was present in Europe and Middle East already thousand years ago, cheesemaking. The earliest evidence of it we have in modern Poland, 7000 years old evidence.
I can see Dairy as a building being available if you have Sheep, Cow, or Goat. With similar function to Brewery, Curnig Hut or Granary.
But enough about Gods, let's instead have a quick chat about Goats. Do you have any plans to implement them as the worst food source, that could be spread in basically all type of rough terrain?
And if we are at the goats, there is a certain type of food processing that was present in Europe and Middle East already thousand years ago, cheesemaking. The earliest evidence of it we have in modern Poland, 7000 years old evidence.
I can see Dairy as a building being available if you have Sheep, Cow, or Goat. With similar function to Brewery, Curnig Hut or Granary.
I have no plan to add new health or happy resources into PAE that would mean, that cities can grow bigger as they should. Lots of things are passive like milk, meat, etc...
honey would be quite important too! but all of that would change balancing.
honey would be quite important too! but all of that would change balancing.
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