Originally posted by Amenhotep7
Well, ya have oracles!
Then I'll be needing a list of wonders we may be able to use...I have absolutely no clue as to what we could use besides temples!
Here are some ideas.
Imagine yourself as a Greek tourist, starting in the west in Syracuse, and sailing east right around the whole of the Greek and Ionian coastline to end up on one of the islands in the middle of the Aegean.
What would impress you?......
(All referrences are from Encarta)
Syracuse was the largest and most powerful city in Sicily. The remains of the old city include a Greek theatre, cut out of rock and designed to hold an audience of 15,000; the great altar of Hiero II; and the citadel built by Dionysius the Younger early in the 4th century BC. The Fountain of Arethusa is a well-known landmark.
(There you have three possible wonders; a Great Theatre, a Alter of Hiero, and a Fountain of Arethusa)
Dodona, the most ancient of the Greek shrines, in the interior of Epirus Region, about 80 km (50 mi) east of Corfu. In Greek mythology, it was sacred to Zeus and his consort Dione. Priests of the temple interpreted the rustling of a great oak tree, the activities of doves in its branches, the clanging of brass pots hung from the branches, and the murmurs of a fountain as responses from Zeus. Both Homer and Hesiod mention Dodona. The oracle at Dodona was one of the most respected of ancient times, and it was consulted by Greeks from many cities and by foreigners; Croesus, king of Lydia, was said to have visited the temple. The shrine was destroyed in warfare by the Aetolians in 218 BC, but was probably restored later.
(An Oracle of Dodona wonder?)
Delphi, town of ancient Greece, site of the celebrated oracle of the god Apollo, situated on the slopes of Mount Parnassus, in Phocis (now Fokis Department), about 9.5 km (6 mi) inland from the Gulf of Corinth. Considered by the ancient Greeks to be the centre of the Earth, Delphi was once the site of an oracle of the earth goddess Gaea. The town of Delphi was at first a dependency of the Phocian city of Crisa. Phocis later joined the Amphictyonic League, which had as one of its aims the protection of the temple to Apollo at Delphi and which sponsored the Pythian Games nearby. When Phocis levied tribute on pilgrims to the oracle, the league destroyed Crisa in the first of the Sacred Wars (595 BC). In 480 BC a Persian raid on Delphi failed because of an earthquake, attributed to Apollo. The Phocians seized Delphi and its treasure in 356 BC but were defeated in 346 by King Philip II of Macedon in the second Sacred War.
(An Oracle of Delphi and a Pythian Games wonder?)
Corinth's citadel, or acropolis, known as Acrocorinthus, lay about 10 km (6 mi) to the south of the city and gave it considerable strategic value.
(A Citadel of Acrocorinthus wonder?)
Olympia, ancient site of the Olympian Games, which were celebrated every four years by the Greeks. Olympia is situated in a valley in Elis, in western Pelopónnisos, Greece, through which runs the Alpheus River. In antiquity it was not a town, but only a sanctuary with buildings associated with games and the worship of the gods. The most celebrated temple was the Temple of Zeus, dedicated to the father of the gods. In this temple was the gold and ivory statue of Zeus created by the Athenian sculptor Phidias in the 430s BC and considered to be one of the Seven Wonders of the World.
(A Temple of Zeus and a Olympian Games wonder?)
Sparta, of course.
(A Spartan Military Society wonder?)
Argos, city in central Greece, in the Pelopónnisos Region near Corinth., which contains the ruins of a temple dedicated to the Greek goddess Hera.
(A Temple of Hera wonder?)
Athens, of course.
(The Acropolis, the Long Walls of Piraeus, and the Temple of Athena wonders?)
Thebes, city of ancient Greece, in Boeotia, north of Mount Cithaeron (now Kithairon), north-west of Athens. Its acropolis was called Cadmeia, after Cadmus the legendary leader of the Phoenicians who founded Thebes. It was one of the most celebrated Greek cities in myth and legend. Stories include the return of the god Dionysus and the introduction of his worship at Thebes, and the birth and exploits of the famous hero Hercules.
(A temple of Dionysus wonder?)
Chalcis, in the centre of the island Euboea, near Thebes and Athens. The ancient city, inhabited by Ionians, was an important commercial and industrial settlement.
(An Agora (i.e. market) of Chalcis wonder?)
Amphipolis, ancient coastal city near Macedonia. The Amphipolis region was one of the wealthiest areas of Greece, profiting from gold-mining on the slopes of Mount Pangaeus and the rich supply of timber from which the Athenians drew material for their navy.
In 424 BC, during the Peloponnesian War, the city surrendered to the Spartans without resistance. The Greek historian Thucydides, who was with the Athenian fleet in charge of operations, was blamed for its loss, probably unjustly. Two years later, in the Battle of Amphipolis, the Spartans defeated the Athenians for control of the city. During the battle the Athenian commander, Cleon, and the Spartan leader, Brasidas, were both killed. After the Peloponnesian War, Amphipolis regained its independence.
(A Mines of Amphipolis wonder?)
Thasos, island and city in north-eastern Greece, in the Aegean Sea, near the coast of Macedonia. The principal industries are timber, olive oil and wine production, sheep and goat raising, and fishing. Its mineral deposits include lead, zinc, and marble.
(A Marble Quarries of Thasos wonder?)
Byzantium, city of antiquity, founded about 660 BC as a Greek colony. It stood on the European side of the Bosporus and occupied part of the site of modern Istanbul. With its excellent harbour (later called the Golden Horn), strategic location between the Black and Mediterranean seas, and abundant fishing grounds, Byzantium soon became a leading port and distribution centre, especially noted for its grain trade.
The Persian forces of Darius I destroyed Byzantium in the early 5th century BC. It was rebuilt by the Spartans in 479 BC, and during the next 100 years Athens repeatedly disputed Spartan control of the city. The Athenian general Alcibiades captured it in 409 BC, but four years later the Athenians were expelled by an expedition under the Spartan general Lysander.
(A Great Port of Byzantium wonder?)
Lampsacus, a coastal city in northern Ionia. Anaxagoras was the first philosopher to settle (c. 480) in Athens, and taught there for about 30 years before he was imprisoned for impiety for suggesting that the Sun was a hot stone and the Moon made of earth. He later went to Ionia (in Asia Minor) and settled at Lampsacus, a colony of Miletus, where he died. Anaxagoras explained his philosophy in Peri Physeos (On Nature), but only fragments of the books have survived. He held that all matter had existed originally as atoms, or molecules; that these atoms, infinitely numerous and infinitesimally small, had existed from all eternity; and that order was first produced out of this infinite chaos of minute atoms through the influence and operation of an eternal intelligence (nous). He also believed that all bodies are simply aggregations of atoms; for example, that a bar of gold, iron, or copper is composed of inconceivably minute particles of the same material.
(An Anaxagoras Philosophy wonder?)
Mytilene, ancient Greek city, the capital of Lesbos, an island in the Aegean Sea. It was colonized in early times by the Aeolians and is known as the birthplace of the poet Sappho (650 BC). The city became a great naval power and established colonies in Mysia and Thrace. After the Persian Wars it became an important member of the Delian League, but it rebelled against Athenian domination in 428 BC and was defeated the following year.
(A Poetry of Sappho or Great Shipyard wonder?)
Erythrae, ancient coastal city in central Ionia, near the island of Chios, birthplace of the Sibyllian myths.
Sibyl, in Greek and Roman mythology, any woman inspired with prophetic power by the god Apollo. The sibyls lived in caves or near streams and prophesied in a frenzied trance, usually in Greek hexameters, which were handed down in writing. Early Greek writers mention only one sibyl, probably the Erythraean Herophile, who predicted the Trojan War. In later legends, the number of sibyls was increased to ten.
(A Sibyl of Erythrae wonder?)
Chios, island city, in the Aegean Sea, off the western coast of Ionia. The island contains relics of ancient times, when it was an important Greek state, the home of noted poets and sculptors, and a participant in the wars that marked the history of ancient Greece and Rome.
(An Artists of Chios wonder?)
Samos, island city, in the Aegean Sea, near the coast of Ionia. In ancient times Samos was famous as a commercial and shipping centre of the Aegean Sea. The island was celebrated also for its red, glossy pottery, which was imitated by the Romans in their so-called Samian ware. Subjected to Persian domination, Samos joined the Ionian revolt against Persia in 499 BC and, following the battle of Mycale in 479 BC, was once again independent. In the same year it became a member of the Delian League. When Samos revolted in 440 BC, it was defeated and reduced to the position of a vassal of Athens. During the Peloponnesian War (431-404 BC) between Athens and Sparta, the island proved a faithful ally of the Athenian democracy, serving as the headquarters of the Athenian fleet; in the later years of the struggle its privileges were restored. Samos passed into the possession of Persia in 387 BC but was eventually reconquered by the Athenians in 366 BC.
(Pottery of Samos wonder?)
Miletus, ancient Greek city of Ionia, on the west coast of Asia Minor, and the most prosperous of the 12 cities of the Ionian confederacy. Miletus had four excellent harbours thus enabling it to develop an extensive trade. Miletus was renowned for the production of fine textiles, especially woollen cloth. Merchant fleets from Milesia sailed to every part of the Mediterranean Sea and even reached the Atlantic Ocean.
From 499 to 494 BC Miletus led the revolt of the Ionians against Persian rule but after its final defeat was razed by Darius I. It was rebuilt in the Hellenistic and Roman periods, but never regained its former power. The city's economic decline was hastened by the silting up of its harbours during the early Christian period (c. AD 300-600). Miletus was the birthplace of the early Greek philosophers Thales, Anaximander, and Anaximenes.
(Schools of Philosophy or Great Harbour wonders?)
Andros, island city, south-eastern Greece, in the Aegean Sea. Industries here produce wine and citrus fruit. Originally inhabited by Ionians, Andros revolted against Athens in about 411 BC, after being forced to accept Athenian settlers, and established an independent state. It became part of Pergamum (centred in Asia Minor) in 200 BC and was annexed by Rome in 133 BC.
(A Wine of Andros wonder?)
Delos, island of Greece, in the southern Aegean Sea. Delos is the smallest of the Cyclades group, having an area of about 3 sq km (1 sq mi). It is now virtually uninhabited, but in ancient times was famous as a shrine of Apollo and as a trading centre of the early Greeks and Romans. According to legend, Delos was the birthplace of Apollo and Artemis. The earliest historical inhabitants of the island were Ionians, who made it the site of a periodic festival in honour of Apollo. A confederation of Greek states led by Athens, the Delian League, was founded with headquarters and treasury on Delos in 478 BC. From this time the island was essentially dominated by Athens. Delos was independent from 322 to 166 BC. The town of Delos, which stood at the foot of Mount Cynthus, is now a mass of ruins. Extensive excavations, begun in the 1870s by the French School at Athens, have revealed many porticoes and altars of the sacred precinct, as well as wharves and warehouses, bazaars, a theatre, a gymnasium, and several private houses.
(As Xen suggested, a Great Treasury wonder?)
...Of course Carthage doesn't seem to have alot of territory there...Also, please go to the greek archer thread...a debate needs settlement by u or Kryten.
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