Peloponnesian War Scenario Development Thread

[_Philospher_]

If this helps I found a map which shows strategic/luxury resources in Ancient Greece.

Here's the website: http://www.uoregon.edu/~atlas/europe/static/map02.jpg

(wish I knew how to add images )

 

[Amenhotep7]

This'll help tremendously! Well done!

 

[The Last Conformist]

Here's the picture:

 

[_Philospher_]

Thank you Conformist

 

[Amenhotep7]

Of course, now we must add MArble, Olives, Copper, Silver, Lead, and Timber.:rolleye: Good job, all the same.

 

[Mongoloid Cow]

Amenhotep7, I'm not Kryten but at Amphipolis they mined Gold - and lots of it.

 

[Amenhotep7]

Well then, Mongoloid Cow, I trust your judgment. Give the mines of Amphipolis an economic advantage.

 

[Mongoloid Cow]

IMO give it the Collosus (sp?) effect, and maybe even give it +50% tax revenue (in the improvements bit) too. But would that be a bit strong?

 

[Amenhotep7]

Not at all! Athens was an economic powerhouse, so we need to simulate this as best we can!

 

[Mongoloid Cow]

How about something like this is set up...

Great Theater
Located: Athens (?)
Effects:

Oracle of Dodona
Located: Dodona
Effects:

Oracle of Delphi
Located: Delphi
Effects:

Citadel of Acrocorinthus
Located: Corinth
Effects:

Temple of Zeus
Located: Olympia
Effects:

Olympic Games
Located: Olympia
Effects:

Spartan Military Code
Located: Sparta
Effects:

Temple of Hera
Located:
Effects:

Temple of Athena
Located: Athens
Effects:

Long Walls of Piraeus
Located: Athens / Piraeus
Effects:

Acropolis
Located: Athens
Effects:

Temple of Dionysus
Located:
Effects:

Mines of Amphipolis
Located: Amphipolis
Effects: Collosus effect. +50% tax revenue (improvements)

Marble Quarries of Thasos
Located: Thasos
Effects:

Great Port of Byzantium
Located: Byzantium
Effects:

Poetry of Sappho
Located:
Effects:

Delian Treasury
Located: Delos
Effects:

Great Harbor
Located: Piraeus / Athens (?)
Effects:

Spartan Defense
Located: Sparta
Effects:

Council of Ephors
Located:
Effects:

And then all you need to do is come up with the effects (and fill in where the wonders I don't know were are)

 

[Amenhotep7]

These are just wonderful! I'm considering what the effects would be this instant!

 

[Amenhotep7]

How about the Great Theater makes 2 people in every city in the civ happy? Oracles of Delphi and Dodona: I dunno how they'd vary in effect. Citadel of Acrocorinthus...Once more, I'll need ideas. I'll come back with more ideas.

 

[Mongoloid Cow]

Maybe both of the oracles have the same effect as the normal oracle. Won't they be in neither Athenian or Spartan territory so conquering them holds rewards, but you have to go out of your way a bit (into Epirus and into Boeotia / Phocis).

PS: What civs have you decided on? Depending on how you use the wonders, Corinth, Argos and Boeotia should be able to be independent easily.

An afterthought...

Won't two happiness in every city make Athens just a little bit too strong compared to Sparta (if the Great Theatre was in Athens)? One in every city would be better and then give three or four happiness in Athens; or you could do a 'Shakespeare's Theatre' and give 8 or 9 happiness in the city it is in and give nothing for the other cities.

 

[Amenhotep7]

I had a civ list, but I dunno what Xen has done lately, so we should consult him.

 

[_Philospher_]

The Oracle wonders could help in reduce war weariness. Greek generals and leaders often consulted the Oracle for upcoming battles. Heck even Xerxes went to visit the Oracle after Thermoplye.

 

[Amenhotep7]

He did? Wow...This is a good idea.

 

[Mongoloid Cow]

So tell me if this is right so I can update it:

1) The Oracles reduce war weariness
2) They do NOT double temple effectiveness

Also, is there any happiness bonus / penalty (get unhappy people for conquering sacred sites - maybe Dodona has none, and Delphi gives a bit of unhappiness)?

 

[Mongoloid Cow]

Also, before I forget:

Pick one:

1) The Great Theatre puts two happy people in all cities
2) The Great Theatre puts one happy person in all cities, and 3 in the city it is in (Hanging Gardens)
3) The Great Theatre puts 8 or 9 happy people in the city it is in (Shakespeare's Theatre)

 

[_Philospher_]

I say 8 or 9 happy people in that one city. True many people from around the Greek world went to visit the Great Theater, but during war travel was most likely restricted. So this left people within Athens with the theater all to themselves. If that makes any sense. Just my opinion anyway

 

[Mongoloid Cow]

Also, what do you think about the happiness penalty for conquering Delphi?