Penalties for cities

[oPunchDrunko]

Does anybody know if the AI gets the same penalties ( science, culture, unhappiness ) as we do?

 

[Grogs]

Short answer is no. They start with chieftain levels, then get extra bonuses at levels above Prince. For example, at deity, the unhappiness is 60%(for chieftain) x 60%(deity bonus) = 36%. You can find a list of the various bonuses and penalties here:

http://www.civfanatics.com/civ5/difficulties

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Actually PunchDrunko is asking about the expansion penalties, not the overall bonuses the AI gets.

 

[oPunchDrunko]

Short answer is no. They start with chieftain levels, then get extra bonuses at levels above Prince. For example, at deity, the unhappiness is 60%(for chieftain) x 60%(deity bonus) = 36%. You can find a list of the various bonuses and penalties here:

http://www.civfanatics.com/civ5/difficulties

Yeah I was asking about the new penalties that were introduced in BNW. Expansion penalties, not difficulty penalties.

 

[joncnunn]

Short answer is no. They start with chieftain levels, then get extra bonuses at levels above Prince. For example, at deity, the unhappiness is 60%(for chieftain) x 60%(deity bonus) = 36%. You can find a list of the various bonuses and penalties here:

http://www.civfanatics.com/civ5/difficulties

That is out of date with BNW which introduced the "AI Handicap level"

AI now gets a new science handicap that wasn't there at all. (Presumably to offset the new per city handicap, but it's a much bigger discount than the penalty would ever be)

The base happiness percentage is around warlord; it's still multiples at levels above Prince and so is still effectively below Settler at Immortal+

AI continues to get a cultural policy discount; (presumably to offset the cultural per city penalties; but again much bigger discount that the penalty would ever be)

So to the OP, bottom line is the AI isn't immune to the penalties, however it gets such a large handicap in both that overall it's getting bonuses.

 

[reddishrecue]

You get 4 unhappiness per city for sure but if you are India, you get 6 unhappiness/city.

 

[adwcta]

You get 4 unhappiness per city for sure but if you are India, you get 6 unhappiness/city.

It's 3, the last one is for your first pop (which may or may not trigger depending on your total pop size if you have liberty or forbidden palace). If you include the pop, India is 6.5.

 

[reddishrecue]

It's 3, the last one is for your first pop (which may or may not trigger depending on your total pop size if you have liberty or forbidden palace). If you include the pop, India is 6.5.

3 pop per city and the 1 pop for citizen. So you get 1 unhappiness/population. Sorry about that.