Plan of attack & Declaration of war (Quick Poll)

[Eklektikos]

Proposal:

We follow the "Cyc Plan" for our initial assault on the Aztecs, and declare war on turn #2 of this T/C

Discussion of this issue

This poll will run until the start of the turn chat

 

[Chieftess]

Ah.. so war is about to come to our doorsteps. (or rather, the doorsteps of the Aztecs...)

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

Chief Justice Review

Unfortunately (and I wish this were not the case), this is not a legal poll.

The Code of Standards, Section F, Point 4, deals with quick polling. The items specifically excluded from quick polling include Declarations of War.

(b) Examples of items that would not meet the criteria are:
(i) Deals with a duration (resources or gold/turn involved)
(ii) Declaration of war
(iii) Disbanding troops


I wish that all of our leaders had been proactive on this topic, and others, however this option does not provide us the legal short cut to make up for it.

 

[Eklektikos]

I read that stipulation before posting this, and hoped that the fact that the decision of whether to declare war had already been made would allow this to pass as a binding poll.

Mr Chief Justice, do I have any further options other than cancelling this weekend's turn chat and following the standard poll procedures?

 

[Bill_in_PDX]

Originally posted by Eklektikos
I read that stipulation before posting this, and hoped that the fact that the decision of whether to declare war had already been made would allow this to pass as a binding poll.

Mr Chief Justice, do I have any further options other than cancelling this weekend's turn chat and following the standard poll procedures?

Believe me, I wanted to find a way around it, but I just can't do it, I have to be consistent.

Here is what I recommend, and I think you have two better options:

The call for a DoW is approved by the citizenry, you simply need the FA Leader to say yes referring to the citizen poll. I intentionally posted that request yesterday in the FA thread so that we could take the following actions:

If the FA Leader returns and posts approval of the DoW based upon your poll from last week, then we are fine from a legal perspective to follow the Cyc plan.

If you do not receive a response to that request within 36 hours, which will be up prior to the turn chat, then simply go to the deputy or the chat rep and get them to approve the will of the citizens.

If none of them are available, declare the position absent, and in accordance with the CoL, you as President can establish policies for those departments who have not done so, and set a policy approving War. You would be PI proof in that you were following the overwhelming will of the people.

In other words, we have a poll that reached quorum approving of War, there is no need to poll again.

Under any of these options, you would have the right to go to war next turn chat.

Bill
Chief Justice

 

[Eklektikos]

Thanks for the advice, Bill

Since this poll is likely to be declared invalid by the remaining members of the judiciary, I will request that it be closed in order to avoid too much confusion.