Poland has a new President

[Domen]

Link to the previous thread (the 1st round):

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=547486

Exit polls results of the 2nd round have just been announced - Duda 53%, Komorowski (incumbent president) 47%.

So Poland apparently has a new President. Turnout was over 56% - higher than in the 1st round (49%):

 

[Lillefix]

Does the president have any significant power?

 

[Domen]

Does the president have any significant power?

Not really, because Poland is a parliamentary republic where the Prime Minister is the executive:

Spoiler :

But the President has legislative initiative, the right to limited veto, the right to initiate referenda, and some other powers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Poland#Powers

Moreover, this Autumn Poland will held parliamentary election, and this presidential election was a kind of prelude:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_parliamentary_election,_2015

 

[Domen]

Regional breakdown of exit poll results (% votes for victor in each region), compared to the 1st round on 10 May:

The only change is the [Upper] Silesian Voivodeship, where Komorowski won in the 1st round, and now Duda has 50,8%:

BTW - there are three different exit polls, all show Duda's victory but one has 53:47, the other two 52:48 and 51:49 respectively.

Official results should be announced tomorrow.

 

[Lohrenswald]

So do you reckon there will be any changes in how Poland is run?

And how does the former and new presidents stand like left-right wise?

 

[Hygro]

Watch Domen come in here and make this thread about Poland.

 

[bhavv]

Watch Domen come in here and make this thread about Africa.

Fix'd.

 

[Borachio]

Watch Domen come in here and make this thread about Poland.

Quite possibly!

But so far there's been no mention of genetics.

 

[gay_Aleks]

He'll examine the DNA of both presidents to determine which of them is a dirty Red.

 

[warpus]

Yeah, can you remind us? Are both of these candidates from conservative parties? Did the more right-wing party win? I can't remember.

 

[cudfather]

They're both right-wing, but the winner much more so than the loser. Duda has a very conservative worldview.

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[Domen]

They both have essentially the same worldview.

But Duda did not sign bill stealing people's money from Open Pension Funds and did not sign bill rising retirement age to 67.

And Duda did not ignore civic requests for referenda. And he did not have all those bloopers and failures that Komorows had.

 

[Lillefix]

Don't like it when wing parties win elections. Too far to the right and they want to install a dictatorship, bring Christianity back in the public sphere, remove women's right etc. To far to the left and they want to shut down Stock Exchanges, kill capitalism, nationalize everything and then install a dictatorship. In general left is less scary then right, but I don't like either.

 

[warpus]

Depends on the country I guess, because the NDP is our leftist party here in Canada, and they're not really that extreme.

 

[gay_Aleks]

The good thing is that in my country, no matter who you votn in, they'll be sure to engage in a bit of theft from the State.

 

[Domen]

The left-right divide does not really work in Poland.

Here there are post-Communists, non-post-Communists, and nuts.

Some nuts says "Poland has no real left", other nuts say "Poland has no real right".

And I think that they are all correct. Hence the left-right divide doesn't apply.

 

[Perfection]

Exit polls results of the 2nd round have just been announced - Duda 53%, Komorowski (incumbent president) 47%.

Congrats dude on leading the polls.

 

[Domen]

And now one leftist - or rather a post-Communist - Leszek Miller - said that he prefers Duda over Komorowski, and said that he is willing to cooperate with the new president. Another post-Communist - Aleksander Kwaśniewski - said that he prefers Komorowski over Duda.

Shouldn't they both support Komorowski considering that Duda is supposedly more right-wing? I'm confused.

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The polling organizations failed totally - they were showing higher support for Komorowski.

One theory is that the polls show lower support for Law and Justice, because "hardcore" supporters of L&J always lie to the pollers.

In this case by L&J I mean their presidential candidate - Andrzej Duda.

 

[Borachio]

The good thing is that in my country, no matter who you votn in, they'll be sure to engage in a bit of theft from the State.

That's true everywhere.

At least, you don't, I'll wager, suffer the farce of MP's expenses claims for duck islands and moat cleaning.

There's a good rule of thumb: scum naturally rises to the top.

 

[gay_Aleks]

That's true everywhere.

At least, you don't, I'll wager, suffer the farce of MP's expenses claims for duck islands and moat cleaning.

No, they're far more direct: they just steal whatever they can from the county and then build a mansion with it. The saddest thing however was when the media found out - they jumped like vultures upon him in the ugliest way possible, dispelling at least for me the whole "journalists are heroes working towards revealing the truth!" business.