POLL: who is the stupidest leader in civ5?

[Jim Bro]

time to say who you consider the dumbest/most irrational leader in civ5.

note that this is largely subjective as you might have had a bad experience with someone in particular.

and you can probably think of someone.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

all of them they're same thing just with different ai weight best ones spam city to take advantage of bonuses if you play hard setting

edit used rng to pick AI for turnabout HAHA wu loses

 

[King Patrick]

Hard to say. So much depends on the conditions of each game - other civs, proximity, resources, etc. - that all are capable of doing very well or very poorly. I will say that Montezuma does not seem to be, let's say, built to last. By the renaissance he's almost always gotten on everyone's nerves to the point that I've had 5-6 civs in a row troop into my presidential palace to ask me to join in a war against him. I guess that's stupid from a standpoint of it would be smarter not to antagonize everyone to the point you get conquered just because they are tired of you, but if he played any differently, he wouldn't be Montezuma. (He's actually one of my favorite AIs, even though I know we'll be at war at some point if he's anywhere near me).

 

[Jim Bro]

Hard to say. So much depends on the conditions of each game - other civs, proximity, resources, etc. - that all are capable of doing very well or very poorly. I will say that Montezuma does not seem to be, let's say, built to last. By the renaissance he's almost always gotten on everyone's nerves to the point that I've had 5-6 civs in a row troop into my presidential palace to ask me to join in a war against him. I guess that's stupid from a standpoint of it would be smarter not to antagonize everyone to the point you get conquered just because they are tired of you, but if he played any differently, he wouldn't be Montezuma. (He's actually one of my favorite AIs, even though I know we'll be at war at some point if he's anywhere near me).

Ghandi would be close second though.

 

[Save_Ferris]

My vote goes to Ramses "What Expansion? What Army?" II. ON harder difficulties he disappears before he can spam out his 19th wonder.

 

[Glassmage]

Monty of course....

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Monty of course....

No way monty has it all figured out he is just unlucky

 

[Polycrates]

I've seen Monty do well. Not often, admittedly, but I have seen it.
I've never seen Washington do well. He just seems to sit there so passively, never really trying to do anything much of anything, just gradually getting more and more hemmed in by everyone else - and sits there and takes it until he gets wiped away by a casual flick.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

I've seen Monty do well. Not often, admittedly, but I have seen it.
I've never seen Washington do well. He just seems to sit there so passively, never really trying to do anything much of anything, just gradually getting more and more hemmed in by everyone else - and sits there and takes it until he gets wiped away by a casual flick.

washington gets big sometimes

 

[Jim Bro]

i voted for montezuma because he's selfish and disrespectful. once i liberated him, gave him three of his cities back and he called my army the laughingstock of the world and went as far as to denouce me. yah right

 

[Bob_]

I wonder no one votes for lizzy. Ok, if shes not in the closest proximity we mostly get along quite fine but once she is my neighbour.... Man, this woman is really always pissed. My experiences with her are so bad that I really developed a negative feeling about her in general. Plus, I hate that "WoULd yOU be INteResTED in a TRADE agrEEmENt wiTH ENGland?!?"

 

[ezwip]

I voted Oda Nobunaga. His swords look silly and so does he. He's always declaring and getting rolled.

 

[qyll]

Anyone who declares war on me once I have iron hooked up.

 

[Eat_My_Brains]

Washington. He gets crushed every single time. I almost feel sorry for him.

 

[Jim Bro]

Washington. He gets crushed every single time. I almost feel sorry for him.

that's probably because his advantage applies to a human player. the AI doesn't benefit from seeing someone coming. at least i don't think so.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

that's probably because his advantage applies to a human player. the AI doesn't benefit from seeing someone coming. at least i don't think so.

the benefit is greatly reduced such as in civ iv when units could see anywhere allowed to move...probably this applies to v too and ai uses demo power for war checks. not much room for this great ua to apply to the ai tactics.

 

[Teperi Blaze]

I voted Harun.

In almost every game I found him arguing with me about this and that, while he send out his settlers unescorted, only for me to find them in barbcamps.

So, in the middle era, he still whinges about things from his 2-city empire and I never had to build a single worker thanks to him. So my 10-city empire isn't a threat for you Harun? My 10 Longswords is nothing to you Harun?

Even if I leave him alone, he still whines in the modern era, but in some games I don't feel the need to take them all. But when it comes to Harun, he will go eventually. He's good to have around for the money he makes, though.

Firm second is Suleiman, backstabber genius. Happy one turn, hostile the next.

Third might be childish Alexander, nag nag nag until I get tired of him.

 

[Keejus]

Gotta go with Bismarck, based mostly on a single game where pretty much the entire world had denounced him and me, and I was busy fighting his two neighbours who had declared war on him while we had a Defensive Pact up. I think you can guess who denounced who in the middle of it all.

 

[galdor123]

I have to say it's Ramesses II for me.

I had nearly wiped him out (he had 1 or 2 -not so great- cities or so left, I had taken his capital). Because a war was starting with another neighbor of mine, I took his peace offer (oddly, he did not offer any payment... oh well).
He remained guarded or hostile to me (well, understandable). He denounced me every now and then, but I just ignored him, having bigger fish to fry. As soon as I had finished one of my next conquest sprees, Ramesses declared war on me

My army size was many, many times greater than his, and I also had Riflemen (I think) while he didnt even have musketmen. Even though I was running into happiness problems, I made it a point to destroy him

 

[CossackProblem]

None of them stand out for being intelligent like Catherine, Hannibal, Yaqob or I believe Mehmet II did in Civ4. The only one who seems to have a definitive personality is Ramses for obnoxiously building every single wonder there is on the higher difficulties.