Possibilities for Poland?

Illyria has been high on my radar for a while now, and Dacia not far behind (Thracia has also come up for consideration, but I feel it’s an either/or for them and Dacia, and like the latter better…plus we have enough people wanting to go into Exploration Byzzies already!)
 
I may be on of the few non-academics who played the old board game Civilization back in the 1980s - which had Ilyrians as one of the starting groups - who had ever heard of them before playing the game!

On the one hand, an interesting Antiquity group, especially now that they have discovered that a major bronze age Civ existed in their area of the Balkans, with massive stone fortifications and apparently dense population - but so far, we can't match that Civ up to any later group - they haven't found any written material from them (so far!), and I haven't heard that they've managed to extract any DNA to trace - yet.

On the other hand, the Ilyrian Pirates were (in)famous throughout the Classical era, and may have invented the Liburnian-type bireme and sail galley that was the 'classic' Mediterranean pirate ship, so they would make a great Minor Power with naval attributes and potential to rent you some fine Very Early Privateers . . .

I also confess to having a soft spot for Thracians, because, like some others who herded sheep in hill country, they wore tartan-patterned cloaks, used bagpipes, and everybody around them were terrified that they might stop fighting each other and start conquering the rest of the world - rather like certain North British types a few thousand years later . . .

I will be very disappointed if Civ VII doesn't take and run with the chance to introduce more of the previously-unusable groups to the Civ franchise: folks that for want of Leaders or Language have been left out up to now, like the Minoans, Etruscans, Iron Age Scandinavians and early Germans, Xiong-Nu, etc.
 
Thrace is also my favourite of the Antiquity Balkanic cultures. My maternal grandfather is from a village a mere two kilometres away from Rogozen, which is where the largest Thracian buried treasure had been found. I've actually seen a part of the hoard in the archaeological museum in Vratsa, very sophisticated finery and goldsmithing, especially for a culture the Greeks we're all too eager to label as "barbaric".

I forgot that the Illyrians were a seafaring culture. One of the possible cultures that could have been the mysterious "Sea People", correct? There could be something there, though i still prefer them as an IP.

On the subject of a precursor for Poland, i think a more terrestial and militant Civ such as Dacia or the Goths would suit them better. Great Morava was a direct ancestor kingdom to Poland AND Bohemia, but i'm hesitant to go there - the 8th century AD isn't exactly Antiquity anymore....
 
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Thrace is also my favourite of the Antiquity Balkanic cultures. My maternal grandfather is from a village a mere two kilometres away from Rogozen, which is where the largest Thracian buried treasure had been found. I've actually seen a part of the hoard in the archaeological museum in Vratsa, very sophisticated finery and goldsmithing, especially for a culture the Greeks we're all too eager to label as "barbaric".

I forgot that the Illyrians were a seafaring culture. One of the possible cultureel that could have been the mysterious "Sea People", correct? There could be something there, though i still prefer them as an IP.

On the subject of a precursor for Poland, i think a more terrestial and militant Civ such as Dacia or the Goths would suit them better. Great Morava was a direct ancestor kingdom to Poland AND Bohemia, but i'm hesitant to go there - the 8th century AD isn't exactly Antiquity anymore....
The Goths were originally linked geographically to the area "around the mouth of the Vistula". While that is now under serious assault from both archeologists and historians, it's still close enough for a Poland link in Civ!
 
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Great Morava was a direct ancestor kingdom to Poland AND Bohemia, but i'm hesitant to go there - the 8th century AD isn't exactly Antiquity anymore....
Well, if Poland gets in the Modern Age it would work. :mischief:
 
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