Problem with Chitzen Itza

[necrolyte]

There will never be a Mayan civ now. Shouldn't it be "Temple of Kukulkan" or "El Castilo"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Castillo

Of course, there will never be a Mayan civ because the capitol of the Mayans at the point of discovery is the name of the wonder.

 

[El Koeno]

I think you're right. It's a bit silly to have an entire city as a wonder. But although El Castillo has certain ring to it, I think Chitzen Itza as a name is more recognizable.

 

[chef pablo]

There will never be a Mayan civ now. Shouldn't it be "Temple of Kukulkan" or "El Castilo"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Castillo

Of course, there will never be a Mayan civ because the capitol of the Mayans at the point of discovery is the name of the wonder.

el casilo is pretty a generic term there are 2 myan sites that have el castilo including chitchen itza the other is tulum

 

[kokomo]

Considering that "El castillo" means "the castle" or "le chateau"

 

[El Koeno]

And temple of Kukulkan may sound a bit obscure.

 

[salty]

The only reason why I've heard of the Itza Pizza is because it was in Civ: Call to Power, which I only played because it came free with some Linux distro which I also got free.

 

[Older than Dirt]

I remember Kukal, Fran, and Ollie, but temple of Kukla? Was that the first true fast food restaraunt where they served still beating hearts freshly cut out of living sacrifices for the so benign gods of the innocent and peace-loving mezo-American natives?

 

[gunkulator]

The only reason why I've heard of the Itza Pizza is because it was in Civ: Call to Power, which I only played because it came free with some Linux distro which I also got free.

It's Chicken Pizza folks. Let's get the name right at least.

 

[Fruit Pie Jones]

Whatever you want to call it, apparently tourists are no longer allowed to climb the steps of the pyramid, which is disappointing. I've got pictures from my honeymoon of my wife and myself at the top. Let me tell you, those steps are steep. Climbing back down was actually rather harrowing.

 

[salty]

Why would the name thing be a problem? Will they not have a Khmer civilization because of Angkor Wat? Having the same name won't produce any programming conflicts unless your game crashes when Washington founds Washington, but I digress.

More importantly, if the Ottomans build the Itza Chicken, should it be renamed the Itza Turkey? And if Napoleon or Little Caesar build it, should it be the Pizza!Pizza! ?

 

[playshogi]

I thought that this thread would be about how useless this wonder is. Maybe it's only in the game because only the AI builds it and makes it harder for me to take its cities.

 

[jayron32]

The temple complex of Chitzen Itza was briefly the capital of the Mayan empire, but numerous other cities also served as such. Also, the Mayan peoples had more of a "diffuse" empire. It was a very decentralized state even BEFORE it collapsed.

 

[jayron32]

Whatever you want to call it, apparently tourists are no longer allowed to climb the steps of the pyramid, which is disappointing. I've got pictures from my honeymoon of my wife and myself at the top. Let me tell you, those steps are steep. Climbing back down was actually rather harrowing.

That would be sad. As of 3 years ago, you COULD climb to the top. The effect is fantastic. It would be a shame if they actually stopped letting you. Didn't Dubya recently make an aborted climb up the steps?

And I will second the climb down being a problem. I had to go down sitting on each step and moving down like that. It was embarassing as there were these ladies in leotards running up and down the steps (like they were working out) all around me.

 

[chef pablo]

The temple complex of Chitzen Itza was briefly the capital of the Mayan empire, but numerous other cities also served as such. Also, the Mayan peoples had more of a "diffuse" empire. It was a very decentralized state even BEFORE it collapsed.

sorry your way off ,the mayan are what inspired me to think of a city/state idea in the first place for civ.all of the mayan empire was a city/ state .Tical was the closest that they had for a capitole since it was in the middle and was the central point of trade for the empire.At one point copan took over the trade from tical after winning a war with tical this story is presented on the famouse staircase in copan.
Chitchen itza and the area of the yucatan was the last area to be inhabited by the maya,maya from caracol and tical were escaping the constant wars and built chitchen itza.At some point there were five brothers who ruled chitchen itza and uxmal maybee this is the empire that you are refuring to.how ever chitchen itza and uxmal are different from the rest of the mayan world in that they were built in late classic ,there were alot of toltec influence here and for the most part was toltec by the time colombus arived.

 

[The Keeper]

As of 10 months ago, you are still allowed to climb the largest pyramid at the site of the Tulum ruins. I didn't go to the Chichen Itza site.

As for the name of the wonder, when you say Chichen Itza, you think of the one tall pyramid, not the whole city. Same as the kremlin. That is why St Basil's is the picture of the kremlin.

 

[chef pablo]

alot of the temples throghout central america have been roped off due to new finds or current clean up projects each country is doing,mexico has roped of temples in chitchen itza,uxmal,palanque and belmopant.In guatamala several temples in tical have been roped off.In hondourus last time I was there you couldnt even go into copan due to local strife between local indians and the goverment.
mexico ,guatamala and belize have thier s--- together as far as tourism, a temple roped off probaly means that its a good thing and either thay are tyring to save one of their treasures or some body made a discovery.hondourus is trying but they are not there yet.Never went to belize but i heard caracol is awsome. if you get a chance to go to central amrica go its cheap and there are sites everyewhere.

 

[Fruit Pie Jones]

I agree that roping off things like that could be necessary in order to preserve them, but according to WikiPedia, the one at Chichen Itza is closed because someone fell off:

Tourists, as of early 2006, can no longer climb El Castillo, the giant pyramid, after an 80-year-old tourist from the United States fell to her death.

What prompted an 80-year-old to climb that thing in the first place?

 

[Spartan117]

I agree that roping off things like that could be necessary in order to preserve them, but according to WikiPedia, the one at Chichen Itza is closed because someone fell off:


What prompted an 80-year-old to climb that thing in the first place?

wow thats messed up up, but it has a slope of like 1, that is steep

 

[chef pablo]

someone call the darwin awards