Question: March Promotion

[Hawaiian]

(p.s. sorry mods, i posted this in the wrong category before.)

So this promotion says you can "heal while moving."

Does this mean you can heal others while you or they are moving? Or does it mean that just the unit with the March promotion will heal itself even while it is on the move?

And does anyone use this promotion regularly?

 

[CIVPhilzilla]

It means the unit heals while moving. So you don't have to fortify them or skip there turn in order to heal.

 

[Gyhth]

(p.s. sorry mods, i posted this in the wrong category before.)

So this promotion says you can "heal while moving."

Does this mean you can heal others while you or they are moving? Or does it mean that just the unit with the March promotion will heal itself even while it is on the move?

And does anyone use this promotion regularly?

Medic I, II and III all add extra healing to the stack of units that the promoted unit is in, or to the units around it as well. March only works for the unit that has the promotion though.

 

[PieceOfMind]

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[Hawaiian]

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Um. Wow. Everyone above, please see PieceOfMind's sig. It appears this is an extremely misunderstood promotion.

In fact, it appears the civpedia needs an extreme update on this ability, because, "the unit can heal while moving" is an ultra crappy description of what it really does.

Sheesh. This stuff needs to be in the game manual.

Thanks PieceOfMind.

p.s. is there any other stuff you know of that is not explained well in the civpedia?

 

[Dryhad]

In fact, it appears the civpedia needs an extreme update on this ability, because, "the unit can heal while moving" is an ultra crappy description of what it really does.

Oh, I'm not sure I agree with that. Most of those things could be viewed as "moving" in some sense, even though they're just moving within one tile so to speak. It could perhaps clarify it a bit better, but for a brief description "while moving" seems fine.

The real problem lies with the medic promotions. While not poorly explained as such, these are promotions that give benefits to other units, which is just asking for confusion really.

 

[PieceOfMind]

The ambiguity mainly comes from the fact they say the march promotion allows units to heal while moving. When you say a person heals, do you mean they heal others or are in the process of being healed?

Also, you'd be forgiven for expecting march promoted units to heal others while they are moving because you do generally need to get the medic I promotion first. It's just unusual that for a unit to be eligible for healing they need to be a medic first! (excludes mech infantry of course)

 

[Zanbatou]

I'm still confused...

Is this how it works:

Given a stack of three units moving together, one with no promotions, one with a medic 3 promotion, and one with the march promotion and a medic 1 promotion...

The unit without promotions will not be healed at all.

The unit with medic 3 promotion will also not be healed at all.

Will the unit with a march promotion be healed at a medic 3's healing rate (because he's being healed in a stack that contains a medic 3). Or is he healed at a medic 1 rate because the medic 3 promotion is deactivated while moving (because the medic 3 doesn't have march)? Or is he healed at a base rate because all medic promotions are deactivated while moving (even if the medic has march)?

 

[Hawaiian]

Oh, I'm not sure I agree with that. Most of those things could be viewed as "moving" in some sense, even though they're just moving within one tile so to speak. It could perhaps clarify it a bit better, but for a brief description "while moving" seems fine.

Judging by the first few answers to this thread, a lot of people don't understand healing promotions. March means a unit can be healed after not just moving, but also after doing things like pillaging, upgrading, and bombarding. I suppose you could guess that means "moving," but technically that's not so. The civpedia description is severely lacking. You have to admit, there is a lot of ambiguity in the civpedia.

It's lacking in many descriptions of promotions, techs, resources, special rules, etc.

But I still love the game.

 

[Polobo]

I'm still confused...

Is this how it works:

Given a stack of three units moving together, one with no promotions, one with a medic 3 promotion, and one with the march promotion and a medic 1 promotion...

The unit without promotions will not be healed at all.

The unit with medic 3 promotion will also not be healed at all.

Will the unit with a march promotion be healed at a medic 3's healing rate (because he's being healed in a stack that contains a medic 3). Or is he healed at a medic 1 rate because the medic 3 promotion is deactivated while moving (because the medic 3 doesn't have march)? Or is he healed at a base rate because all medic promotions are deactivated while moving (even if the medic has march)?

You are correct in that only the unit with march will be healed. Now, each turn a medic will heal all eligible units. If more than one medic is capable of healing a unit then the medic with the largest healing benefit will be chosen to heal. Thus, in your example, the unit with march will be healed by the medic 3 (in addition to the base healing rate for the unit). The medic 1 on the march unit itself will be ignored.

It does not matter for purposes of healing OTHERS that the medic has moved, only that a medic without march will NOT heal itself if it has moved.

 

[PieceOfMind]

It's just unusual that for a unit to be eligible for healing they need to be a medic first! (excludes mech infantry of course)

I should have said...

It's just unusual that for a unit to be eligible for healing while moving they need to be a medic first! (excludes mech infantry of course)

And in response to the other question, it's better to think of it in terms of which units are eligible for healing each turn. It is often the case that medics themselves will not be eligible for healing because they are moving about. When determining the heal rate of a unit which is eligible for healing at the start of each turn, you just look at the medics on the same tile, take the best one and apply the heal rate accordingly. It should be noted that for the WoodsmanIII and Medic promotions to stack you need to have them on the same unit (I still need to confirm this actually).

It's therefore possible to get a ridiculous super super medic - WoodsmanIII and MedicIII (from a GG). However a heal rate that great is probably very unnecessary and it's very expensive (difficult) to get.

 

[Polobo]

You can get march via combat 3 as well. Its kinda nice since if the marcher is by themself they will heal extra.