Rat 06 - AWDG 20k

[ThERat]

Since LKendter has decided not to host any more SG for C3C, I would like to host this. It will be the same as LK106, which is a cliffhanger, but over soon.

The difficulty will be up to DG, but on continents.

Anyone interested?

Difficulty = demigod
Civilization = TBD
Barbs = None
World Size = Standard, 60% water, continents


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Remember 10 turns per round - STRICT 24 hours got it, total 48 hours to at complete.

Additional restrictions:
Armies may NOT be used more then 5 tiles from a cultural border.

Leaders may ONLY be used for armies or to rush a building / small wonder in the 20K city. If you can't form an army the leader must go to the 20K city.


The game MUST be won by 20K - period.

No intitial trading to follow LK rules

A sign up would require AWDG experience, since this will be much harder.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Additional restrictions:
Armies may NOT be used more then 5 tiles from a cultural border.

I'm in. I think the difficulty level may warrant removing the above rule. I need to check whether we won in Handy's AWDG without pillaging.

 

[MeteorPunch]

I want in. AW+20k is a great variant, so the attempts should continue.

my civ choices:
1. Ottoman
2. France
3. Korea

 

[Greebley]

I'm in. I think the difficulty level may warrant removing the above rule. I need to check whether we won in Handy's AWDG without pillaging.

Gr6 I think had a restrictive rule on armies and was won at AWDG. It didn't have the 20K requirement though.

Regretfully, I will need to pass on this game. I am having troubles finding the time for my current games and cannot add another. Good luck though.

 

[ThERat]

I'm in. I think the difficulty level may warrant removing the above rule. I need to check whether we won in Handy's AWDG without pillaging.

maybe we remove the rule for this time to see how it goes. 20k and DG would be really stretching us.

Regretfully, I will need to pass on this game. I am having troubles finding the time for my current games and cannot add another. Good luck though.

never mind, next time.

So, still looking for 2 more players, who think they are up to the challenge.

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[Sir Bugsy]

If we want to make it harder, let's just take the first completely random roll.

 

[LKendter]

A sign up would require AWDG experience, since this will be much harder.

Would you believe I don't qualify.

While I did some insane stuff on emperor, I never hit demigod.

This isn't a sign request. I am really enjoying getting time for other stuff.

 

[MeteorPunch]

If we want to make it harder, let's just take the first completely random roll.

You're joking right? I believed you for a second there.

I like the 20 turns or so each method. Play more than 20 to secure the Colossus possibly.

 

[ThERat]

Would you believe I don't qualify.

I do believe that we actually all played Greebleys AWDG and won, so you would be qualified.

First random roll? I think for this 20k game, trying 30 turns first would be better. I know about Nad's random deity trouble, but this game here requires a good start, just look at Lk106 and how narrow that is.

Which Civ should we use, maybe religious?

 

[MeteorPunch]

If we go REL, my vote is for India.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Religious is a wasted trait in AW. If you want the cheap temples and cathedrals I suppose that is a good reason. If you want religious, why not go for the culture kings =>Babylonians Cheap temples, cathedrals, libraries, universities and research labs.

@ MP - Yes I was being sarcastic.

 

[MeteorPunch]

I agree that besides the temple start, REL is a waste. I've been trying some starts and it's hard to get a good one going. I have a new rule that I think we'll have to go by: no Seafaring opponents. They are beating me to the Colossus easily.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

lurker's comment: This is out of my league - I suck at AW, period. If you guys do manage this one, though, it'll be a tale worth remembering. And anyways, it's always a great read.

Good luck and may the force be with you

 

[Sir Bugsy]

no Seafaring opponents. They are beating me to the Colossus easily.

Actually getting any wonders at this level will be difficult. The AW portion isn't what is hard. OK it is pretty hard. The 20K portion is what is going to be very hard. What is the highest level for a 20K win? Deity?

The problem is that wonders become very cheap for the AI to build the higher you go.

 

[Own]

What is the highest level for a 20K win? Deity?

Too lazy for lurker tags, not a sign up. Sid 20k has been done by the psycho bunny.

 

[TimBentley]

lurker's comment: And at least five others. Kuningas (fastest in 1715) and Mark1031 (AW and OCC) being the most notable.

 

[MeteorPunch]

would it be wussing out too much for this to be archipalego? I'm starting to doubt whether this is even possible on continents.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

You probably won't get a river on a 'pelago.

I've been through four OK starts, but I didn't like any.

 

[MeteorPunch]

I just noticed the 60% water thingie. 60% archiapalegos are more like continents really, so might as well be continents if we're going 60%. I'd just prefer to play 70% so we won't be facing larger AIs.

 

[ThERat]

ok, why don't we go for Babs, I agree REL is a useless trait, wasn't thinking properly.
I think this game will be very very tough, maybe we try and get some games rolling, 70% or 60% are fine with me.

I will try and roll some starts tonight as well.

And there are still 2 slots for crazy people, maybe some grumpy ones too. We got some experienced AW people here, anyone up to it?