Reasons not to plat Eyes Of Night

[Tact]

1. he's a quitter
2. he cries about map size
3. he cries about game given start techs
4. he cries about land masses
5. he cries about land types
6. he's 14
7. he doesn't 'play it where it lies'
8. he cries, stamps his foot and walks out
when he doesn't get his way
9. he apparently isn't worth playing
10.he lacks honor
11. he lacks adjustability
12. he lacks staying power

and if I didn't mention it yet, he's a crybaby quitter...if you should come across him I recommend not playing him, he's not good enough to play outside his practiced, strategized, familiar settings and cries about it when he does...a very poor upbringing apparently

 

[The Shrew]

I totally agree with Tact. He couldn't expand the way he wanted, and he threw a fit. What a small child. Anyways, every reason up there is correct. I was in the game. He didn't get his way, stomped and left. Then he had the nerve to say it was OUR fault that he left. This person is a super newbie to anything but duels, and on duel there is no doubt he cheats. I don't know how, but 50 cities by 3000bc is impossible by any standard. I hope you find this useful.

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[Tact]

UPDATE!!!....thanks to the wonders of Autosav..it has just been confirmed EYES OF NIGHT is a CHEATER!!!, the cheat mode is toggled, his cities grow one citizen per turn and that's only 5 turns into the game, he goes from Zero to 4 units in one turn!!!

 

[SunTzu]

Yes he has been caught cheating, he's only 14? Ah that explains why he's annoying, he hasn't reached puburty yet

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[The Shrew]

I too have seen these autosaves and he is definately cheating. 4 units in one turn from only 2 cities is impossible, and he has them growing once per turn. This is outrageous, and I hope and pray none of you have to suffer the same cheating spree.

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[EyesOfNight]

"1. he's a quitter
2. he cries about map size
3. he cries about game given start techs
4. he cries about land masses
5. he cries about land types
6. he's 14
7. he doesn't 'play it where it lies'
8. he cries, stamps his foot and walks out
when he doesn't get his way
9. he apparently isn't worth playing
10.he lacks honor
11. he lacks adjustability
12. he lacks staying power"

First of all why don't I tell them the settings? It was a 150X150 map with only 3 people. The host got all the techs for monarchy and then some. On number 10 you say I have no honor, I don't think you have room to speak. Adjustability...because I won't play a 150X150 map with you and one other? 2, 4, and 5 you just repeat yourself. And no, I'm not 14, obviously you were unable to catch my sarcasm. Funny thing is you sent about 25 more messages to me once I went offline, and you sent messages such as "child quitter, child quitter, child quitter", obviously a sign of maturity. I'm not even going to bother with the other ones. As for the cheating thing, show me the evidence. And if autosave caught me cheating, and I quit at about 3700BC, tell me how autosave saved every single turn since it only saves every 250 years? That means you have 1 save. Also, tell me how I as able to make my cities grow 1 size per turn and how I got 50 cities by 3000BC if 1. I stopped at 3700BC and 2. If I was on an island the size of my fist. Also, feel free to explain how I was able to accomplish that since hex editing wouldn't be able to accomplish something like that.

"and if I didn't mention it yet, he's a crybaby quitter...if you should come across him I recommend not playing him, he's not good enough to play outside his practiced, strategized, familiar settings and cries about it when he does...a very poor upbringing apparently"

Yes, I can see how truly mature you are. However there's just one thing wrong with that statement, I play every single setting except deity and large maps. Do you play 1x1x by chance?

"I don't know how, but 50 cities by 3000bc is impossible by any standard."

That's 2000BC moron, at least get it right. ANd you obviously don't have autosaves of that game because I only sent you one save since I played that game agianst the AI. It's one of my challenges. I've had many, Smash can vouch for me on that.

Note to suntzu, "puburty" is spelled "Puberty".

 

[Tact]

No child, I have the Autosav's of our game, checked them out, you're a cheater, plain and simple, rules, screw the quibbling over rules this is about you CHEATING....CHEATER...CHEATER....CHEATER... CHEATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Tact]

Autosav saves every turn child, I use it because I'm on dial-up and it has kept my game on diconnect, it saves after every turn

 

[EyesOfNight]

Wrong, I just did a few experiments. From 4000BC to 3700BC (Which is the time that I quit) it took 2 saves. You have to be talking about the 150X150 game in order to have autosaves since the game that I had 50 cities by 2000BC was against the AI. So which is it?

 

[Tact]

oh I'm sorry, now that you've been caught you want to talk about it with me, sit on it and twirl

 

[SlowwHand]

I think what EyesOfNight is saying is, he felt he was making a balance to the game, as the host had many techs at start.
Probably not a real swift idea.
Should have called for a restart.
If you're suspected of unhonorable activities from days gone by, all the more reason to choose options conservatively.
This wasn't particularly a conservative choice.

Just an opinion.


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[Tact]

The arrogant little child, challenged the two of us (in game), "I will destroy both of you", and then quit when I had an davantage, there was no restart called, he just up and left

 

[SlowwHand]

Right. I understand. Bungled in all aspects.
From talking to adjusting to quitting.

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[The Shrew]

well i loaded your "proof of ability" and cheat mode was opened. And who said you had to have a hex editor to cheat? you can always get third party stuff. there's tons of it and im sure you have every one of them. And before you go saying we doctored the saves, don't even try. We haven't had time or the knowledge to pull somethin like that off. You cheated and got caught with your britches down. You've taken it too far this time. By the way, the proof you need is ready for viewing. just open the attachment that sun tzu is going to post very soon. It contains both of the files. I admit its entrapment, but i had to get him somehow. This is going to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are not lying about eyes of night and he is a true cheater at heart.

Its amazing what a few years of Law and Order can teach a man

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[The Shrew]

by the way the proof of ability is his "50 city game at 2000bc against the ai" he cheated on it too btw.

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[EyesOfNight]

When you go to load game, and then you pull down the window and choose MP games to load, they then get loaded as .sav games. When you do that the cheat mode is automatically enabled, and in fact I think it does that every single time. And that was against the AI, the game I sent you. God damn, your case has so many holes and contradictions.

Shrew your proof of cheating is that you know I did it, you don't know how, but you know I did. Which is really translated to..."We have no evidence but we know you did and we're going to try and get this one by on your past reputation". And in fact in so many words you actually said that, I have tons of ICQ chats with you to prove it.

[This message has been edited by EyesOfNight (edited May 15, 2001).]

 

[The Shrew]

Your reputation is what has you by the balls here. If you didn't have a reputation for cheating, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The fact is I entraped you. You haven't got a chance. The files sun tzu is posting prove it all. Take a look yourself!

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[EyesOfNight]

en·trap (n-trp)
v. tr. en·trapped, en·trap·ping, en·traps.

To catch in or as if in a trap.

To lure into danger, difficulty, or a compromising situation. See Synonyms at catch.
To lure into performing a previously or otherwise uncontemplated illegal act.


Tell me oh great one how you "entrapped" me. I know it had to have been a very diabolical plan.

 

[The Shrew]

Oh it was a master plan. I drew ya in and caught ya red handed. If i was the cops this would be thrown out as illegal evidence. Too bad im just a regular old citizen. Me and Tact knew you cheated, sucked you into a game, and saved every turn to see just what you did. Now we have our proof, now you are done in civ2. If you had any appreciation for the community, you would leave silently.

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[SunTzu]

here it is oh yeah the manual says Auto-save option saves every turn.

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