Red Dawn

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A flick of a keyboard, a pinch of Quick Combat and Epic speed, some nice spraying of Emperor and all standard everything else, with a dollop of red hot meatballs...

And what do we get?


RED DAWN



Ok, I admit the title isn't exactly tangential, and I want to use this thread to write whatever feels like coming to me. Which isn't much, at the moment, but rest assured that once my writing engine kicks in, we'll have a steamroller ready to roll those alphabets out like hotcakes!



So we begin in the misty mists of 4000 BC, on an alternate universe that may or may not be our own...

Hark, we meet our first civilization.

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But that's not 4000 BC?!

Well, we have to say that we didn't take many screenshots and the time budget was low so this is the best we can do.

Also denouncing Mongolia around Turn 40-50. I really love being me. But what could I say? They were neural when we first met, they started off too closely to me, naturally they ~coveted~ my lands as I did their iron-rich hinterlands.

Thus when I settled Satsuma a little to the west of Osaka here, the Mongols threw a breeze and declared war within ten turns.

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But whaaaa~ how did this happen?

The Mongols you see were incredibly distracted by a lone warrior I had placed in Satsuma... and perhaps that city-state to the south. They basically sent four warriors, three spearmen and an archer down there for what I cannot say. Perhaps they would like to show overwhelming force in the hopes that I will sue for peace?

Maybe, but it costed them their capital city and later on their second city next to Hsia. They were also at war with America to the northwest, having taken New York and bloodying the Americans into terror. The land of the free immediately closed itself off... by building the Great Wall, robbing me a chance to nab that wonder. I tried going for Hsia, but between Mongol's many leftover units and the city's 16-def, even the few swordsmen and pikemen I had were no match.

Then Russia declared war on the pitiable remains of Mongolia, they managed to take Turfan... and then later on they declared war on me.

With some nicely placed catapults and SAMURAIS, Turfan was mine, and the Mongols were well and truly surrounded on all sides sans their puppet New York.

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The time came to move into Hsia not long after, starting with an old worker bait. The thing was the Mongols never really took it, not until many, many, many turns later when I was close to taking their last production city down. Instead they kept moving back and generally try and make a nuisance of my invasion. And they did have a large military - had to use whittling tactics before I could take the city proper. Slow, tedious, and I'm still wondering whether it was worth it.

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During that strange war, England of faraway lands had taken the time and opportunity to turn this into the new world. By first, settling a city (Coventry) to the southeast. The next step was to declare war on its runaway champion (Japan). Apparently Monty decided to show up as well and do the new world settling thing too, but he was much friendlier than Liz.

Somewhat.

Thus, when I had taken Hsia, and had that technology to truly roll over everyone else...

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Razed to the ground. Testimony to the natives' hellbent isolationist policy of There Can Only Be One.

A brief situational snippet of Red Dawn Continent:

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Monty settled two cities close to my capital. I had no patience to do anything burn strategy, so I simply worded off a simple request.

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Right, trusted. You settle my continent willy-nilly, and have the sheer balls to... denounce me. Right.

But that's not all it gets better

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But anyways, I decided it was high time to fully explore the continent before I got my little obsolete guy to check the faraway lands.

It was a mistake none of my core cities were coastal, and a mistake that I am paying for even now into the end of the 20th Century. But for now, a look at what goes on behind the American Hermit Shell:

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I had met the Babylonians by then, and they too share my convictions that the Aztecs are a spammy problem for civilized nations everywhere.

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In the next thirty turns, we see the Fall of the Mongol Menace as Washington finally retakes New York.

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What are you doing here? Aren't you supposed to be on the other faraway land with fish n chips and cricket?


But anyways, this gave the American Founder the confidence and impetus to finally do what he always wanted to do.

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I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked that this kind of thing would occur

Just so we are clear - when Washington meant odds, he meant completely lopsided against him.

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This is just extremely sad.

Not only was he at war with the dominant civ, he was at war with Russia and Babylon and Babylon's many city-state allies.

It was truly ugly.

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We had a brief peace after I decided that Washington was the nicest spot to get and his two other cut off cities could just wither on the vine.

True enough, they did.

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I was never happy. Between the brief and few bouts of green happy, Japan was always at war with someone or another.

In the Industrial Modern era, it was Russia.

I could have left her alone. With the amount of land and cities at my beck, even faraway Babylon had nothing on me.

The Aztecs were gone by then, swept in fire by both Babylon and our continent by his city-state allies and friend-civ Russia, and then later on his second last city next to my capital was taken with a lone artillery and WW2 infantry and promptly razed. Such was the ignominious end of Montezuma, who joined the ranks of Mongolia and America.

But Russia? Russia was different. Her sheer size made me think five times about trying to conquer her. It was easily done, what with me having artillery and mech inf and Zero fighters and tanks, she only had Infantry and Artillery to match.

But one thing that made me go after this land of sheer unhappiness, was that on this ginormous boxy continent, her lands were the only places that contained Uranium.

So I had no choice but to go.

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Her frontier cities easily fell.

But as I went deeper and deeper, the unhappiness racketed.

Such that this was what faced me in the first half of the 1940s.

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Too large, had to be slowly whittled down and with the -33% combat inefficiency it was hellishly a pain to slog through. Even my Zero fighters couldn't do much by themselves, and Catherine was smart enough to maneuver her units out of artillery range for quite sometime.

But the unhappiness was a killer.

Then I took Moscow, and Rostov, and Novgorod, and then if there was an empire fracture mechanic it would have kicked in heavily now.

-23 Unhappiness.

Yet the only rebels were a pair of AA guns, who were promptly put down by a combo of rushbought artilleries and mechinf. I had to rushbuy several stadiums and annexed a couple cities along the way with rushbought happiness buildings, severely dampening my ability to flesh out the Autocracy and Rationalism/Commerce trees.

Meanwhile Babylon had all the city-states in the world as his ally, even on my continent, and thusly he won the diplo vote to become world ruler forever.

Now we reached the end of this story.

And this was the one who captured the Aztec capital.

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And here's a post-credit wrapup:

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NEXT UP: Preparing for Long War with Babylon Runaway/Korea Remnants

(England is getting gobbled by Babylon)
 
Very nice, you should have bought all CSes and DoWed Babylon, though ;)
 
Very nice, you should have bought all CSes and DoWed Babylon, though ;)

I would LOVE to do that, but unfortunately I didn't even locate the other continent until Satellites.

So had to gracefully bow down to Babylonian diplomatic superiority.:(

Even worse, now I lost the save file when it got deleted with a batch of older saves.:(:(
 
But I did say that this would be a thread where I get to write stuff that suits me, and the next piece will involve an amazing total of 97 screenshots. Ok, not as amazing as some other folks here in this fora, but its still a lot of stuff to upload to imgur.

For now, we just had a random map game as Washington, on the same level and speed as the game before. Apparently it was on archipelagos, and thankfully the place we started out on had enough space to expand in. What was better was that the neighboring islands were close by, populated by a duo of city-states and two major civs - India and Persia. To my south, there was a much larger island containing the Incans. We met them after I met our dear neighbors Darius and Gandhi, and they got off on the wrong foot when Pachacuti called us "an inferior civilization". This prompted an immediate denouncement, and much unfortunately, this contact colored Incan perception of the young Republic for a long, long time.

It is generally not recommended on levels higher or on Pangea/Terra, but one of the best ways to nab a wonder all for yourself is to DOW the one civ who is also building it at the same time. The severity of the DOW, and not whether you have an actual military to realistic enforce it, will screw with the AI's plan and force them to stop wonderspamming in favor of military production. It doesn't work all the time, because surprisingly there are some civs that are dead set on finishing their wonders, but in the case of this game, in the case of close proximity Persia, that was how I managed to nab Hagia Sophia and subsequently the Porcelain Tower to propel me into the Renaissance before all of them.

Thus we now enter the crux of our first shot of 700AD, where the first American Caravel had just finished exploring the wider world.

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They truly feared our Great Might. Perhaps this was a premonition of things to come.

Or maybe it was because of what happened when a lone American Pikeman stumbled upon the ruins of ancient Atlantishangrilaemurianu, and equipped themselves with weapons that would become increasingly common in the years to come.

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The World's First Rifleman making his way back to the American mainland


Despite all this, the Republic was behind the times in way of military size, but at least in regards to its immediate neighbors the Persians, it was ahead enough to ensure their tactful diplomacy.

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Did I mention we already discovered Rifling at this point?


The United States is a young Republic, yet ancient in its inception, ancient enough that the city-states of the world respected it and adopted its Rifles not long after.

Darius of Golden Persia, wise as he may be, was fairly unwise when it came to settling too close to this Republic.

Thus was he put to the test of the sword.

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HUH? TAK TAI BRAHAMA, AHGATA!


With cannonae and Rifles, Persepolis was easily Metropolis

(NOTE: we did not rename the city as such, even though we should have)

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Then there was Peace, the brief kind, as I hardbuilt another cannon and Rifleman and my Great General Georgy Zhukov came to the helm.

So in this exciting interim, we denounced Persia. My friends, peaceful tall India and far and wide Russia of the Tundras, immediately came in to support me with their own denouncements, and because Darius made an unwise choice of conquering Singapore, he earned the ultimate ire of neighboring England.

The Incans made friends with Persia either then or from before our second war, and this made us worry when we spotted that Incan cannon in the midst of Darius' border forces. But ultimately it was for naught, for we made the mistake of befriending Elizabeth of the Redhead, who was at odds with Gandhi the Peacenik Warmonger and Passive-aggressive Catherine, and then doing what we always wanted to do.

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Quite telling he chose Freedom instead of Honor


He was still unfortunately stuck at that point in the middle Renaissance, never recovered from losing the Hagia Sophia. It was still amazing he managed to nab the Sistine Chapel in Pasargadae.

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But we were way ahead of him. The Incans and the Russians beaten us there, but now the world had the opportunity to witness the first use of Artillery in warfare.

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Persian units began disappearing in fine pink mist after this turn


Japan showed the first signs of unhappiness with my new relationship with the ancient... Mother Country.

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What, no magic lightnings or overly ominously eerie backgrounds?


It didn't matter, not at first. The American Industrial Train was running over Persia like a car that went over 88mph slamming into a road runner.

Brutal, ugly... and fast.

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What happens when an Industrial civilization encounters a backwards Renaissance one


It was over quickly.

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The mistake was starting too close to me. Never liked you, or the rest of those fools


The repercussions however had startling severe consequences, for America.

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Jesus H. Christ


Before too long, it was like a chugging train wreck that just kept going without pause for concern.

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I never liked you both even before the game started, but thanks for being this honest this early, I guess


Anyways, Susa was a pretty crappy city, so we took it and razed it (its population "magically" disappeared to the mythical prairies of Wyoming (read: holocausted).

But they turned out to be the only immediate source of 7 Coal that was already mined, and it took a good while for Persepolis to culture grab it much to our consternation.

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Backstabbed...


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7 ironclads... we were only dreaming then


Then It happened...
 
It turns out that making friends with England was a very, very bad idea. I don't know if the Lizzy was playing a really subtle long term game of diplomatic knifing, but if she was, it was a pretty cold and calculating move.

By making friends with her, I had earned the ire of Japan and my former friends

By exterminating the Persians, and using up second DOW in process, I managed to get a chain reaction of diplo hits going. Leading to America being isolated on the world stage. At that point, the only real allies I had were city-states: Geneva and eventually Budapest

Which brings us to...

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I would say I was surprised, but that would be a lie


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I never trusted you, AND you didn't declare war on me. I DECLARE ON YOU


My forces on the other island I rushed most of them back (with Georgy Zhukov)

The Incans, the closest to me thanks to their sneaky city settling on the untouched eastern edges of Philadelphia and Washington, were the first to respond with an invasion of... a musketman. On the navy side, they did not much other than presenting my lone caravel targets of opportunity to pick off. Eventually landed a longswordsman at New York, but that too was murderized.

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America in Crisis, and the taking and razing of Chuito


I thought their tremeire and a caravel or two was their only navy. Turns out they had more than that...

A lot more.

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With that amount of forces even my two artilleries would be in trouble


Just so we are clear, Pachacuti had WW2 Infantry by then. But thus far he was throwing his obsolete units into the meatgrinder first.

Then the chain reaction exploded.

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Why... you wretched welp I KEEL YOU!


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His friend jumped in as well, and next turn against Redheaded England


Frigates were tough beasties, and I really wanted Ironclads but had no coal. I could have worked a mine north of Persepolis, near the border of Almaty, but each time I sent a worker there, an Incan lancer would pop out of the blue and nab that worker and then rush back into the CS.

Thus no coal for now.

Meanwhile my ally Geneva was soaking the brunt of the Korean-Incan Coalition

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Turtle Ships, the only thing worse than frigates or destroyers at this point


It fell in the next two turns, leaving me alone with a militaristic CS (Budapest).

In the time between this shot and the next, I managed to tech Biology and had a GS bulb Replaceable Parts. Thus I was blessed with my own WW2 Infantry, and with that and a lone Artillery and a frigate, I went and blasted India out of Delhi. Good thing too because they had a lone cannon by that point, and the last thing I wanted was an India in Industrial bothering my Persian puppets.

Also by then the borders finally caught up with the ruins of Susa, and I nabbed myself 10 coal. Juicy ironclads here we come...

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HOOO-BOOOOY


Yeah, out-teched, out-gunned. Even with Artillery, Turtle Ships are absurdly hard to sink. With the ridiculous amounts Korea was fielding, it was more than enough to ensure the death of my lone Artillery, thus I had to withdraw it from coastal-to-sea duels.

Everyone but India and Japan (and Britain too, I believe) were fielding Destroyers at that point, even with their humongous fleets of obsolete frigates, Turtles and caravels. It was a good thing that I had six ironclads up and running around the Big American Island, blasting any hostiles or running over them should they dare to cross the Potomac.

Oh, and made peace with India not long after. Russia took some time, but she came around to it. Korea called it a day too, and this left me with... the Incans.

Hmmm...

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Plz stop bothering me kthxbye


Well Sejong was pretty interesting.

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Afraid ???


Even though he had these, the North Koreans respected the American... battle prowess, I guess. Did sink quite a few of his Turtles and frigates when I got heavier Renaissance naval units and ironclads into the fray, so that may be it.

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Why did you not zerg rush them my way ???


I was wondering whether the Pachacuti paid Sejong off to join in his little coalition. He never liked me, especially not since our first contact ended with me denouncing him for being a racist.

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The feeling of being out-teched


Before the turn of the 20th Century, even my "friend" England went guarded on me. I was truly left alone in a sea of hostile civs.

But that's the way I like it!

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I'm pretty sure he knows about B17s


NEXT: The Hundred Years War with Mighty Inka
 
We will be back to you with the Inkan War shortly, but for now, a brief interlude on a challenge I took up from a friend.

Basically, America Science Pangaea

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We started off on a really sweet river plains, and with the exception of the Ottomans to the north and city-states ringing around our west and south, our side of the Pangaea was isolated.

Hark, came the Babylonians one day.

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That was on Turn 15. Promptly declined.

Did ol' Tabarnak's swords rush minus the fourth city. Sorry, I really rather have the extra happiness to get things growing faster (and have an extra warrior up and running to boot)

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Classical Zigzag Surround Pattern


Naturally the way we positioned troops and his neutral (read: extremely hostile) behavior towards us, Suleiman demanded to know our true intentions.

We told him to go and die.

The city and archer bombarded one of our swords, but Edirne was easily put to the annex in a couple turns. Next up was Istanbul. Then peace, and getting all the happiness (and growth) back in order.

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Amazing


In between the time we had made friends with Babylon, Spain, Egypt and Korea, making a friendship triangle that might have stymied runaway Greece or nascent China forever... had I not decided to denounce Babylon once after our friendship expired.

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I'm really tired of seeing you too


Thus we will eventually fulfill his request of going away, but not for a long time to come. For now we focused on grabbing three crucial wonders - the first was the GL, which helped slingshot us into the Medieval and keep parity with civs like Greece. The second was HG, coupled with Liberty finisher GE, to get PT and slingshot us into the Renaissance through bulbing Astronomy.

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the poor player's teching


Still we were surprised that Babylon or China had barely expanded into the unclaimed wilderness in between us, and we breathed a sigh of relief that would allow us to concentrate on SCIENCE! Our first uni located in the capital was up and running (fully staffed at the expense of production), the other two production cities hard building them the hard way.

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please dun keel us


To the north, we discovered two city-states, Belgrade and Warsaw, whom we allied in short order. Belgrade gave us an archer and several knights down the road, which we put to good use, while Warsaw was eternally grateful to us when we rescued their workers TWICE and smashed a few barb camps. Thus, militarily, we were still doing fine even with production cities producing nothing military related.

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Occupied Istanbul, a hateful sight for Suleiman


The main goal at this point was to farm GSes.

We had three great scientists, eventually four, and five, and six, and we didn't use them to bulb anything in the Renaissance.

Used RAs and hard-teching instead, though RAs were hellishly expensive and we had a "friend" Egypt who would refuse to sign RAs even though he was friendly with us. We never quite knew why, perhaps it was the fact that we had three wonders or that we denounced his other friend Babylon many moons ago.

In any case, we managed to get an RA signed even with hateful Babylon (though it was quite costly)

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At this point, we expected three top contenders for Pangaea Runaway: our neighbor hostile Babylon, the Greeks or Korea who had the largest army at this point

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At least we are ahead of most them in tech


The Chinese were at war with Babylon and Egypt, as they were in their long history of being the unofficial gatekeeper between our unsettled west and the crowded east. Once they even made the error of declaring war on Greece, and that we may never truly figure out why or why they never expanded much.

Eventually, they took Memphis.

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Only to lose it to the Koreans, who were Egyptian allies at this point. Then Greece kicked the Koreans out of Memphis, and at this point we slowly ticked off the Koreans on the Potential Runaways.

Babylon now putting up a Friendly smile towards us his old friends and ex-denouncer, also uses the time to expand into our area.

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Then they were at war with China, along with my friends the Egyptians, the Koreans, the Spanish... and the last thing we wanted was our unofficial gatekeeper to fall and allow all these runaway ruffians to seriously mess us up.

So we went to war with Babylon, took Borsippa, and handed it off to the Chinese as their third (puppet) city. We also had to nab open borders to help defend their new gain from waves of bowmen and pikes (but mostly bowmen).

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Then the Babylonians decided to one up further and settle another city northwest of Borsippa, sitting on a hill coated with strange minerals we were unable to identify until the Industrial Age

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IOW, until we finished teching this


We had a pool of GS at this point, and the farm times were dishing out more and more even though producing things took ages to complete.

Also we conquered the Ottomans to fully bring our side of Pangaea under Pax Americana.

By now our friend the Egyptians were gone from this world, and not too long afterwards the Koreans were crumbling on all fronts as Greek city-state allies came into play in increasing numbers. Highlights were the taking and sacking of Daegu by Budapest (above screenshot), with the excuse that the population did not fully believe in the Dictatorship of the Proletariat and thus had to be "permanently reeducated"

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Translation: we will bury you under Hellenic Socialism!


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The 1000-pound wonderspamming gorilla


More RAs and I believe one GS used to bulb Replaceable Parts... then we had filled out the left side of Rationalism (and before that, a Freedom Opener) and got ourselves Battleships and then the Electronics of...

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Welcome to the Modern Era


Our neighbors were utterly shocked, hostile, backwards as they were with the exception of Comrade Alexander of the Hellenic Revolutionary Committee.

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With the exception of two, the rest of the world was rendered backwards by American discovery of Electronics


We never liked the Babylonians. They were a problem for our gatekeeper the Chinese for a long time, and they had their own share of wonders they used to keep themselves safe from Grecian-Chinese aggression.

I'm talking about the Great Wall, and our initial failure to take Sippar with three Riflemen and a Cavalry. Because we didn't want to spend the cash or hammer to grab an artillery along, one rifleman died and that cavalry was gone forever. So we had to tactfully retreat, and accept Babylonian unconditional peace then.

But now we were back, and they were oh so horribly backwards:

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Tech Disparity at its finest


It was in all honesty a crap city, and if it wasn't for the 8 aluminium tile it was sitting on (how did Babylon know when it was only in Renaissance?), we would have promptly razed it. Alas, that 8 aluminum was worth keeping it... oh, did we mention we settled a fourth city to the south along the two city-states there just to grab their 10 Coal? We initially wanted to use them for some ironclads (after annexing Istanbul and courthousing it), but the plan was never followed through.

This was also when the combo-chaining of RA resolution and GS pool-spam began to take effect.

We signed two more RAs after we got to Rocketry, and once those were resolved...

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It feels like an arcade shooter than anything else really


And for quite sometime, the United States was first in the world as a technological leader.

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Half the size of the Communist Hordes though...


We were flying hovercars and talking through IPhones and the Internet while Dear Leader Alexander was still trying to figure out how to split the atom and use the slide ruler.

He managed.

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At some point we bulbed Atomic Theory and was disappointed to discover that this was an American Game with no uraniums in the vicinity (the closest in a southern city-state that was also a Greek comrade).

Also the Hellenic Military Air Force being brought to bear on the Walls of Babylon:

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siege engines of runaway death


Thereafter, Babylon was only a tiny little city-state in the far frigid north.

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look at all that uranium
 
Getting the Apollo Program done was a long pain, and the communists beat us to it by several turns. By this point, they had also completed their first SS Booster, which made us really worried.

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Then the SS Engine... and then they mysteriously stopped. We believed they ran into severe technical problems that could only be produced in inefficient communist dictatorships, and thus they didn't bother with putting a man into space at this point.

At this point, America was lagging behind in Science, having switched to production intensive to get all those spaceship parts out asap.

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The Longest 26 Turns Ever


The Chinese were fairly well into the Industrial, had access to Infantry and Artillery. They even settled a couple cities in the uncharted west of my prime lands, close enough to three separate Greek city-state comrades.

We did say that the communists had failed their space program right? They decided to take it out by declaring war on China, and promptly demonstrate the power of the Worker's State

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Glow-in-the-dark, a world's first


The Red blitzkrieg continued much to our consternation, and China didn't really put much of a fight. Her western spam cities were taken by the city-states and reeducated into oblivion, while following up the employment of Comrade Atom...

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Would we launch in time???


It was a tense short span of turns.

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By now we had rushbought two rocket artillery in Washington and Boston, and then later on in Philadelphia (our 4th city).

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Preparing for war... and something else


Then it was time.

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Before we fulfilled Nebuchadnezzar's request, we had one last thing to make sure of.

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You were always a weak willed ill-spined leader unfit to rule any kingdom, you pathetic commie


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Have a nice life of New yawk insults


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Dirtside America getting ready for the Long War




American ingenuity to the stars

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One last part is all its needed


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The USS Unity making its way to AC
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Some stats to see how outnumbered we were:

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Not a Dan Quayle?:(


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This was so much worse than Polynesia




The End
 
It was great, do more. :)

(Looking forward to all G&K Stories, and planning to start my own)
 
It was great, do more. :)

(Looking forward to all G&K Stories, and planning to start my own)


Aye, dey will be sum interesting tales fa'shure


For now, we have a distraction from our archipelago AMERICA game, deciding to pursue the pleasures of a good ol' Emperor West vs East as Siam. No teams enabled, just yours truly and a whole bag of crazy sociopaths. Oh, and Monty. Can't get enough of this guy on this level.

I figured he would start off on the other continent and might, just MIGHT, grow into a massive runaway that he is potentially capable of. Or at least he'll survive long enough to provide some good ol' lulz ("I share your convictions the Aztecs are a spammy problem..."). Apparently it wasn't even close. Or rather, he was closer than we wanted.:(

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Translation: Please Don't Keel Me


To be fair to him, we weren't dowed upon but rather politely asked him to not settle on our turf. It was a little too late, we'd suppose, given that we asked a turn after he settled one in front of us, in my face. The map turned out to be iron-biased towards me, Siam, despite having Rome down to the southwest (which we don't like at all). Ok, there was a 2-iron deposit outside of Monty's cultural borders, Rome had 2 iron in its 3-city core and a 6 iron tile it could and would eventually claim to its tundra south. Spain... well, she isn't expanding much. In fact, we may have a case of forced OCC here seeing as she is ringed by city-states, me and Rome.

But where were we? Ah yes, the Aztecs and our Siamese war with them.

Good ol' swordy rush never fails. It took a bit longer than 10 turns, and we had to add in an archer and a spearman and a nice touch of worker bait, but in between all the Kantai Kessen, Monty was finished as a potential civilization runaway.

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So now I'm sitting on a pile of two Aztec cities that may or may not be useful, but at least roads will be cheaper to maintain. I really want to smash Rome right now, even beelining Cats but I'm not sure that's a spiffy idea when I could just straight up go the usual Theology-Education beeline (preferably with GL, its still available) and get the modus operandi HS+PT wonder combo to out tech the both civs on my continent and then rush them with Naresuans and Longswords.

This is Rome doing a three-ring defensive emplacement. We figure someone - either him or Isabella, will bag the Great Wall. That just wouldn't do, especially for a runaway potential such as Augustus.

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The problem are the city-states in the way.

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Almaty is a Roman ally, and I'm sure Augustus is gunning to become top friend of every CS in the world (and a runaway as well), but we are here to crash his dream of world domination and replace it with Siam.

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I even let Augustus know it in advance, though I'm not sure if its wise. At least Isabella is friends with me (and has too, denounced that runaway potential neighbor of hers)

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Mein amigo


Hmmmmm... I believe one of the CSes has requested the destruction of Ragusa there. And seeing how close Rome is to a cultural city-state (Brussels), we could buy it off and open a second front when we come over there to smack his Legions down.
 
I have a bad feeling about this. Why? I'm not breaking my treasury past -2 or -10 gpt, military-wise. Last Emperor game before I jumped to Immortal had me struggling at -25 gpt before I could catch a break and used some ill-gotten cash to upgrade swords to get my first capital kill, and even that took some time to adjust back to normal gpt and happiness.

So I'm going to break myself against one of those city-states, and I'm gunning for Roma Amigos. If Isabella wants to play as well, so much the better.

edit: Get a Cat or two before that too.
 
Well, maybe not so bad a feeling after all.

Managed to nab GL+HS+PT combo, in addition to The Colossus. Surprisingly was able to take ND too, even though Chichen Itza went off halfway through completion (no biggie at the moment). With them, was blasted off into the Renaissance pretty much before everyone else.

Sent a trireme to discover that the West was populated by...

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And Persia and the Ottomans.

Apparently these two had a bit of scuffle that was in the midst of a lull when I popped by to say hello.

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Nappy was friendly at first contact, but before long, even before he managed to send ANYTHING out east (he had no coastal cities lol, and he was still stuck in the Medieval), he already had his usual rival routine on.

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Then I sent a scout over, and discovered a setup that was bound to be... explosive.

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Nothing could go wrong here


I figured with the Great Wall, Pachacuti might - just might - survive Nappy's inevitable voracious onslaught and maybe even carve a runaway empire for himself...

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Well, a bit disappointed it wasn't...

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Like our Mesoamerican friend Monty, Nappy made sure the job was thorough as possible.

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No wonder he believed I was trying to win the game in a similar manner.



Now back at the homefront, the Romans had gone to war (and are still warring in 1170AD) with dear Isabella, who after our "recent" DOF had decided to refuse more friendship offers and lowered the price of lux goods. I figured it was due to wonderspam (and it seems she's one of those civs who hate wonderspammers). Initially they almost made progress, but were beaten back and I gave Isabella 5 irons to hold her own against the Legions and Ballistas.

Then Augustus conquered potential friend Brussels, and as I readied some Naresuans and Longswords to pounce on Ragusa...

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So you're broke eh? Well, try banging your head against a brick wall then.


It was in honesty a half-hearted attempt at an invasion. Maybe if this was Immortal, he'd be sending much larger waves, but between my three Veteran Longswords (swordsmen promoted from the Aztec conquest) and an archer and pikeman, the whole thing blasted back in his face.

And that was the hole in armor for this to finally happen...

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I'm glad you're finally being honest to yourself


This was by far the best move the game could ever hand to me at this point. I got free DOWs from both parties, though I made peace with the Romans not long after this happened. I got to position troops inside Ragusa to chase down her Conquistadors and Pikemen, AND then finally took out that damnable maritime CS in the way.

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Legendary Siamese General leading the charge


I just love me some Naresuans. Despite city-penalties, just a handful of them plus siege and longswords was more than enough to take the Spanish down.

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By then I was post-Gunpowder, so I had gunpowder units available for frontline combat too.

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But the Battle of Madrid was to be decided by all these units shown here.

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Even with their extreme durability (Stampy indeed), I lost one Naresuan to combined archer/city and Spanish pikeman assault. But it was worth it to take that 30-def capital down.

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General Zhukov, an old hand from many long wars ago


So now Isabella offers me the peace that threatened AIs offer when they know they can't win, and I accepted it. Now she has to contend with Augustus, who is still very much warring against the Spanish empire.

It was around that time that we received a most distressing message.

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Also the Persians and French were at war with the Ottomans (and each other), and we aren't really sure who is taking who here; given that the French had just conquered the last Incan city, and the proximity of the Persian-Ottoman borders, we are inclined to believe it was our good man Darius who did the deed.

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Pretty sure its still going to end up a oneway French show tho.:(

Now for some demographics of our current situation:

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1st in tech and land, 2nd in armies and GNP, and its only 1170AD. Science could certainly be MUCH better, but I've just been producing unit after unit and have only built a single Wat at my third city. We'll see how it goes, whether I decide to go after Augustus after my next batch of units are online or bunker down till Riflemen (one RA with France, set the tech path to beeline Rifling and have opened Rationalism)

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I came, I saw, I will conquer


Augustus is in the Renaissance too, though given that it was pretty recent, I daresay he's still has a ways to go before he can match us.



Future Plans should I have this continent under control before 1500AD:

- use of Ironclads to support amphibious assaults on Western beachheads

- Good ol' fashioned artillery + rifleman/infantry rush towards Paris

- a game without nukes? That would be a nice change of pace.


also what's up with Pachacuti and Great Wall? The guy has got to be the most predictable leader after Wu Zetian and Washington to always build the GW whenever they are in the game.
 
Apparently my tingling sense was right - there was something fishy about this game going too right. If I wasn't breaking a sweat early game, its gotta be because the future got... horribly derailed.

It was interesting, in the Chinese sense.

And since its more than 30 screenshots, we'll have to do two posts.

We begin with me having positioned my trebuchets and other units in place to snatch Neapolis and use it as a spearhead against Augustus. I would have loved to have waited for Riflemen and cannons, but I figured that would mean waiting too long and allowing Rome to bring in more units to bear.

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No, Maximus, you are the mistake


Meanwhile back west, the Persians were slowly gobbling up the Ottomans as part of their drive to form a mini-runaway empire to match France.

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Foreign policy issues aside, the taking of Neapolis proved quicker than expected, and we pressed in our advantage to take Cumae...

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We were right to push hard and fast and RIGHT NOW because Augustus has gotten himself some lovely cannons.

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And then he wanted Peace, the kind we are all familiar with.

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Cumae proved tougher than expected easy push, and it turns out Augustus had a lot, lot more units. And was further into the Renaissance than we anticipated. It did not bode well

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Most of our elephants died to take Cumae, and through some nasty flanking, Romans managed to take out a treb and my musketmen, and all I got left was a Pikeman, a GG and a half-dead Treb (with promotions)

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The Roman "Bulge Offensive" had begun.

We quickly bought some units and had some others that were finished streaming down from our capital.

But it was a trickle at best.

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A friendly militaristic CS - who we befriended through Ragusa's demise - luckily gifted us a Lancer. Lancers are awesome things, and in age before Cavalry, they dominate the field hands down.

It was too late to save Cumae. Romans retook it. But we still could hold onto Neapolis.

By the skin of our teeth.

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Renamed in honor of the valiant actions of the proud and few


For the next 15 turns or so we hunkered down to wait for Rifling and Chemistry to finish in a nice combo of hard teching and Rationalism-boosted RA.

Back after we barely took Cumae, Augustus was confident enough to brush aside our requests for Peace

Now he was jumping the bandwagon again

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Gimme all your cities, and I'll consider


11 turns before Chemistry finished through RA (and brought ourselves some middle techs we didn't bother to research yet), we jumped back on the offensive and took back Cumae for good

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Ok, we didn't even bother to wait for cannons, it was just Riflemen and Trebs chaaaaaaaaarge ~

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The Charge of D'Arc's Rifle Brigade


3 turns before Cannons, and we had Rome and we thus made peace.

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In hindsight, we should have just hunkered down and crushed the remnants of his army and took his last production city (which contained Himeji).

To understand what is to happen next, one must understand that thanks to yours truly's giant puppet conquests and staunch refusals to allow open borders from other continents other than first contact, Rome had little in the way of "Western" friends.

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Only me, Isabella and the Eastern CSes


But first, another demographics update:

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Uh-oh


It happened not too long after the Ottomans fell to Red Persia. We were taking our sweet time building Macchu Pichu for our city-state clients and we figured the other continent would be too busy warring to build anymore proper wonders to impress city-states.

Well, it turns out I should have just wasted my happiness and conquered the entire continent in first place.

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Then came the Napoleon runaway, and finally our old friend Isabella too...

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suspiciously neutral


But it got better when we were beaten by so-called "neutral" Persia to Macchu Pichu, by 4 turns, and right into one of our longest wars.

Persia didn't know about Rome back then, but he did know Spain, and more importantly, he did know Spain and France weren't exactly pleased with me. So what I think happened was that Isabella and ol' Nappy were approached to DOW me, and they agreed, and Isabella brought in Augustus for good measure.

It literally caught us by surprise, and the only thing stopping us from falling apart was the lack of a massive French naval invasion or greater use of CSes to fight proxy wars. Nappy did sent in one or two units to occasionally throw me off.

Even with most of my Riflemen and cannons placed around Rome, the Roman assault was too big a brunt to bear while our Madrid holdings barely had anyone defending it at all.

So to alleviate the problems of such a one-sided war, we bought off a CS right behind Rome.

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Heroic Almaty takes the brunt of Augustus instead


Meanwhile on pitiful Madrid...

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Only one Rifleman


Aside from a few strays, the Channel was mostly calm and clear. Helped that Nappy didn't built any coastal cities lol

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But still, outside of breaking cashstack (and we were already doing that for everything from cannons to Riflemen and Lancers), there was little we could do outside of bunkering down and waiting...

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Almaty was down to just these bunch of dudes. He did build a musketman and another cannon later on, but for now it was just one heroic Crossbowman against the giant pile of Roman units.

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I was still suspicious of our good friend Darius there. He had just gone Neutral to previously Guarded/Hostile, and he had just finished a wonder I was 4 turns away from nabbing (and cementing a CS alliance I had with Belgrade)

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That was all moot anyways. I got Military Science, and had a GS I saved for a rainy day (like now) to bulb me into the Industrial Age.

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Like Napoleon, Augustus just wouldn't give up even when he is out-teched and out-gunned.

So I had to trim him down.

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Same thing with Isabella back west, except I had only one cannon-turned-arty and a trio of Riflemen reinforcements and a Lancer to hold Madrid.

But once Antium (and Augustus's standing army) was demolished, the shift in schwerpunkt began

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Making peace with Rome for the last time


And Isabella paid dearly for her surprise aggression.

Dearly.

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Meanwhile, I had three ships on the Channel to keep watch for any French attempt at a crossing. There were a couple, and they all got zipped to death the moment my Frigs and caravels spotted them.

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On one hand, we should have just kept pushing and take Toledo out and raze it to the ground.

On the other, we decided to slam into Lhasa instead and give Isabella the bitterest peace she was ever going to get.

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Free Cavalry!


Then it was time to shift attention to last hostile CS on my continent.

Belgrade. He wanted Macchu Pichu, but someone else built it and then when the DOW came, France allied him in hopes of blowing open a hole in my flank

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Unfortunately he met my artillery train


Nappy just wouldn't give up, and now he was offering me Versailles-esque peace deals while I was blowing up him and his friend CS to explosive bits.

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I said no and pushed into Belgrade.

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Just nice that after I took it, I got me some infantry ready for an eternity of occupation duties.

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Turns out our continent had plenty of uranium, and all of them (except in Rio to the northeast) belonged to me.

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But then came the worrying news...

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:nuke: NUCLEAR ALERT :nuke:


Just as I got started on the Manhattan Project no less.

By then my navy was non-existent, they were either bombarded out of existence by French fighter stacks or they were hiding inside the coastal cities to not get bombarded by fighter stacks.

Then they got nuked out of existence.

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At first, I figured he wanted to keep the other coastal city with wonders intact.

Nope.

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Every now and then he would just nuke these two because he had not the range to reach Sukhothai

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You really think you can frighten me - a runaway human empire - with your pathetic nukes??!


Conversely true for me...

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Not shown: Another 2 B-sans bought in Nuke Bait One


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I guess this game won't be nuke-free at all.

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So I asked him what he wanted to get me to stop nuking him out of existence.

His response:

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Ok, he still had the largest army on the entire planet at this point.

At this point we were exchanging nukes pretty blatantly. I would rushbuy two or three atomics in Si Satchanalai and Nuke Bait One, and sometimes one of those cities would go up in nuclear pyres and lose all those atomics.

But that's the point - at no point did he ever strike both cities at the same time.

Then came the point where I think I could have an unconditional peace treaty. But I was wondering whether I should be at peace even then

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The thing about nuking his cities out of existence (with nuclear missiles) is that as soon as they go *poof*, Nappy would simply spam settler and settle a new one in place.

So I knew I had to permanently find a way to put an end to this, and soon - he had completed Apollo Program and the first SS Booster. Darius had completed Apollo as well, but was nowhere close to Nappy there.

(did I mention I completed the left side of Rationalism at this point too?)

So after nuking round #344987768, I rushbought myself a nice little piece of promoted Modern Armor, and a promoted Battleship, and a Siege II Bomber...

And we went to town and took Paris

Napoleon was incredibly pissed. Pissed enough that even with all these fallout making terrain a hellishly process to move through, he sent in approximately 3 mech infs, 2 paratroopers, 2 rocket artilleries and a civilian (presumable to clean up the waste ASAP).

So I got my BB to fire finish off a paratrooper aiming to place ZOC between the ocean and my Modern Armor inside Paris, a Bomber to finish off another, and then we scooted it off into the ocean.

Then we nuked Paris, and Napoleon lost a good number of his units there.

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But that still wasn't going to cut it. He didn't want to give up his outrageous peace demands, and Darius was still smugly sitting out of it...

So we had no choice but to give Paris to Persia.

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Amazingly, he settled Gordium double-quick right after he got Paris


I had to give Open Borders to Darius at one point to get a RA out of him, and he used the opportunity to settle a spam city right in my backyard. I'm not sure what he was trying to do, but he was never able to nab my strategic resources or the road tiles that linked my core north to the south.

Thus sometime before this shot, I bribed him to go to war against nuclear France, even without nukes of his own.

Yes, Darius was crazy enough to take up the challenge for something paltry as 180g and a few resources I didn't really need much of

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We didn't even have to give him uranium, and he had none by the way


We apologize that we didn't take screenshots of all these wordy events, but it was quite a hectic rush to see who would WIN at this point.

Even after losing his capital city, Napoleon could just never, never stop completing those Spaceship Parts.

Right before I went to war with Persia, he had already completed the SS Engine.

Rushbought myself 8 Stealth Bombers (no Logistics, alas), annexed Lhasa and got a mech inf and a nuke sub in there.

Took out Kuala Lumpur and got blamed by Darius as a warmonger weak picker even though he was a French ally who DOWed me.

Bought myself a lot more nuclear missiles.

Spammed Persia like mad.

Now at this our dear friend Napoleon was quite - I repeat - quite willing to have unconditional Peace. But we were in no mood for any peace at this point, and Nappy cemented it with a Nuclear Missile strike on Ragusa.

I didn't even notice that.

(also at this point, of all the negative diplo traits taken out, Nappy stopped coveting my lands. Interesting.)

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Maybe next time I'll switch off quick combat whenever I'm playing Emperor.
 
This game was absolut cheesy fun.


some post-game demographics:

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Hmm, that Sejong. I wanted to rush him early in the game, but then suddenly Rome decides to DOW me double quick. I figured either he wanted that, or Korea paid him off to have a go at me.

But I managed to smash Rome, take his capital, and have only four swordsmen and a lowly spearman left

But in the interim, Sejong built the Great Wall

So now I figure I'll have to wait for Chivalry and sorting out unhappiness problem before I can start churning out units to pummel him (and with Keshiks too)

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Or should I DOW him and then MAKE his units bloody themselves here?
 
Hmm, that Sejong. I wanted to rush him early in the game, but then suddenly Rome decides to DOW me double quick. I figured either he wanted that, or Korea paid him off to have a go at me.

But I managed to smash Rome, take his capital, and have only four swordsmen and a lowly spearman left

But in the interim, Sejong built the Great Wall

So now I figure I'll have to wait for Chivalry and sorting out unhappiness problem before I can start churning out units to pummel him (and with Keshiks too)

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Or should I DOW him and then MAKE his units bloody themselves here?

LOL, just LOL. Keshiks are seriously artillery trains in the making. If only they be upgraded to Self-Propelled Artillery...
 
seems interesting
 
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