Religion increases GPR 100%!

[Kinseek]

There's also a school of thought that says monotheistic religions, by sharply dividing the world into "natural" realms (which operate according to predictable laws) and "supernatural" realms (which are the province of the deity, but circumscribed in scope), actually helped create the conceptual underpinnings necessary for scientific research to take place at all.

Hm, I`ve never heard of this myself either, and it is indeed interesting. But I`d still point out that simply going for a naturalistic explanation, or even world-view if you like, in the first place is just as effective, or perhaps even more effective since this sharp division may not actually always be that sharp (excluding that we only observe one side and have no clue of the other if we presume this). The argument also fails to explain excactly why monotheistic religions should have a sharper division of natural and supernatural. The only thing I could think of is that since polytheism has more gods, you need more ways of discerning and characterizing each one, and thus it is often "necessary" to make them interact with the world. But it certainly doesn`t exclude polytheism from in principle to have an equaly sharp division of natural and supernatural as monotheism might have.

 

[braves_zealot]

Someone said religion should be a drag, but I think it was long overdue for this game. How many great civilizations have been aethiest based? Possibly only recently with ones like the Soviet Union, and even then they had underground religious gatherings. Possibly the thing that has been most influential besides writing is religion because it was so wide spread and swayed so many to do things they may not have done.

I dont understand wat each great person does? care to explain? the artist gives a 4000 culture boost, but thats all i know.

 

[viper9527]

Europes mining and casting has always been the most advanced.

I dont think so
When Alexender the Great conquered the Europe the swords the army used were made from bronze which limits the length of the swords ,as long as 60 cm and they couldnt be made longer because they broke but almost in the same period in China which is in the Qin Dynasty their swords were also made from bronze but they could be made as long as 100cm

 

[apatheist]

Europes mining and casting has always been the most advanced.

Two words: Damascus steel.

 

[prext]

just give us an opt out button to click

no +/- for any civ

 

[Louis XXIV]

Religion should be a drag on society, not a benefit. :thumbdown

Historically, religions have been beneficial to societies, at least to the rulers, because it helps reenforce their power and keeps the populous content. Having civilization allow you to switch to a state religion to get extra gold and happiness of those with that religion makes sense to me.

 

[Neonanocyborgasm]

No wonder there's such a rush to found the religions...

In the discussion thread about his last preview, Solver has confirmed that cities which practice the state religion of the civilization that they belong to will experience a 100% increase in the birth rate of Great People.

It's clear that it will be possible for a civ to remain paganistic indefinitely... but it won't be a very attractive option.

But you're overlooking the attraction of the Atheism tech. It increases science by 150% at the cost of taking a -10 diplomatic rep hit.

 

[thehouse]

Damascus steel was never casted. Steel could not be cast until modern times. Alexander never conquered Europe. He did not even fight in Europe except one or two battles. Making Bronze has nothing to do with the effectiveness of mining technology. The Qin Dynasty started over 100 years later after Alexader, plus the xiphos sword you are referring to were made of iron.

The main point was during the gunpowder age. Europe was much better prepared to create cannons being the worlds best casters and having way more metal due to the most advanced mining technology

 

[thehouse]

Damascus steel was only great thanks to a small nearby iron deposit naturally having a perfect mix of minor impurities.

 

[apatheist]

The main point was during the gunpowder age. Europe was much better prepared to create cannons being the worlds best casters and having way more metal due to the most advanced mining technology

Europes mining and casting has always been the most advanced.

Note my added emphasis.

Damascus steel was only great thanks to a small nearby iron deposit naturally having a perfect mix of minor impurities.

You should let historians and archaeologists know of your discovery.

 

[Mewtarthio]

Someone said religion should be a drag, but I think it was long overdue for this game. How many great civilizations have been aethiest based? Possibly only recently with ones like the Soviet Union, and even then they had underground religious gatherings. Possibly the thing that has been most influential besides writing is religion because it was so wide spread and swayed so many to do things they may not have done.

The USSR raises an interesting point. I suppose the closest equivalent in CivIV terms would be making Paganism your State Religion after the world was innundated with religions already. Speaking of Paganism, will you be allowed to get Religious Civic bonuses (eg double leader birth) in Pagan cities if you leave your State Religion at Paganism, or do you have to declare an SR before picking a Religious Civic?

I dont understand wat each great person does? care to explain? the artist gives a 4000 culture boost, but thats all i know.

Prerelease Info (under the CivIV section of the main page)

 

[KrikkitTwo]

The USSR raises an interesting point. I suppose the closest equivalent in CivIV terms would be making Paganism your State Religion after the world was innundated with religions already. Speaking of Paganism, will you be allowed to get Religious Civic bonuses (eg double leader birth) in Pagan cities if you leave your State Religion at Paganism, or do you have to declare an SR before picking a Religious Civic?



Prerelease Info (under the CivIV section of the main page)

Actually I think Freedom of Religion works for the USSR, just remember that 'Freedom of Religion' is coupled with a Police State and No Freedom of Speech....So people can freely choose their religion (they just can't do anything the state doesn't let them).

The other option is Paganism as a State religion with the Religious Civics (USSR would Then be a Pagan Theocracy...although that would have almost no benefit unless people begin returning to 'Pagan'..perhaps after the discovery of Humanism/Communism they tend to do that if all the Temples/Cathedrals are destroyed, and Missionaries kept out?