Relocate New PDX?

[Stuck_as_a_Mac]

Now, DZ and I have been talking about this one for awhile now. Should we relocate New PDX?

New PDX has a library, University and a barracks. It CANNOT grow past size 5, where it is now.

Inclosed is a diagram showing where it could go. I believe "1" is the best spot.

Discuss!

 

[GenMarshall]

IMO, New PDX should be moved to the location where it can Max its food intake and thus would make it grow past 5 (And would make DZ happy )

 

[Donovan Zoi]

Thanks for holding my happiness in such high regard, CG!

My choices would be 1 or 2.....

4 would have the new city still crowding Eklektochtitlan.
3 is too far out, I think.

Basically, if Site 1 crowds the Highlands, my vote would be for Site 2. If Site 2 leaves unworked tiles between the Highlands and New New PDX, I would choose Site 1. Hope that makes sense. I will need to look at the save.

 

[Octavian X]

I'd rather not move the city. We built a university there, and it seems like such a waste...

 

[Donovan Zoi]

Understandable, Octavian, but the University shouldn't have been built there in the first place.

Anyway, it seems like a waste to let 7 to 11 sea squares never be used for a thriving harbor town. A city on site 1 or 2 would be able to get up to a Size 17-20 and use most of its hills in the process. In its current state, New PDX will stay at Size 5 until the end of time.

 

[Octavian X]

OK, I'll support a moving, if and only if the name of the city remains the same. PDX was a great city from the original Democracy Game, reknowned as 'The Happiest Place on Earth.'

 

[Stuck_as_a_Mac]

The Name will stay the same. Just a different location.

 

[Shaitan]

Move it. Just make sure to sell everything off before the final settler is built.

 

[Octavian X]

OK, last concern. Are we sure that, when we move it, we will not lost access to the spices in the area?

 

[roadcage]

You get all your tier 1 tiles unless they are tier 1 tiles for another Civ's city. There are 4 Incense in the area. Locations 1,2,and 4 will recoup all Incense when the new city is placed. You WILL loose 3 of the Incense for 1 turn. That is they will dis-connect when the city is depopped, and re-connect when the new city is founded at locations 1,2, or 4. If location 3 is selected, 1 of the Incense will re-connect on founding and the other two will have to wait until the new city has accumulated 10 notes (of culture)

You now have 6 incense. 2 are exported. (Greece exp 1290 and Iroquois exp 1310). This leaves 4 local. You could loose up to 3 Incense and still supply your commitments and have leftover for your own civ provided no additional deals are struck until the city is moved.

 

[Stuck_as_a_Mac]

Roadcage:
Not if we have a settler there and on the same turn abandon city as we do rebuild. Besides, we *hopefully* have the culture to support the area for a fraction of the turn.

 

[Shaitan]

As the settler will be built by the city upon abandonment the city will be rebuilt the same turn it is disolved.

 

[Ehecatl Atzin]

Pack up the kids ma'am, the city is moving!.. ahem..you got my vote

EA

 

[philippe]

yes move to spot 1

 

[Stuck_as_a_Mac]

So the consensus is to move to 1? Ill poll it once i get a response.

 

[Chieftess]

No, Site 2. Site 2 give us the most free plains. Site 1 crowds into Penguin. But, since it has culture, I think we should live with our mistake and learn better city planning next game. I even told everyone that it wouldn't grow past size 5-7 when we first placed it.

 

[Chieftess]

Here's a picture of each site. Each one shows the tile usage for the city if we place it in that site. I recommend site 2, as it gives us the most potential growth. (that's IF we do move it)

 

[philippe]

images not working CT

 

[Chieftess]

I know that. The IMG tags are touchy.

Another thing - The city has mounds of corruption (atleast 70-80%). It's not worth it to build a settler. It will still have corruption.

 

[Cyc]

I would definately like to see the original discussions on the city placement of New PDX or a link to them. I think everyone wanted to go for the gold, even though it was known then that the city would not grow large enough. I say leave it where it is. It would be such a waste to lose all the work that been put into the city. We have to learn to live with our mistakes.