Returning Wonders-Elimination Thread

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Angkor Wat 24
Apostolic Palace 9
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 14 + 1 = 15 An impressive building. Visually unique. And it's an African wonder, we need more African wonders.
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 20
Louvre 19
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 19
Notre-Dame 23
Panama Canal 14 - 3 = 11 I'm not interested in this. And this is very complex to fit on the map.
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 12
Shwedagon Paya 24
Spiral Minaret 21
Statue of Liberty 21
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 21
University of Sankoré 17
Versailles 24
 
Angkor Wat 24
Apostolic Palace 9
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 14
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 20
Louvre 20 (19 + 1) -- There's never enough room for great works.
Machu Picchu 22
Neuschwanstein 19
Notre-Dame 23
Panama Canal 14
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 12
Shwedagon Paya 24
Spiral Minaret 21
Statue of Liberty 21
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 18 (21 - 3) -- No.
University of Sankoré 17
Versailles 24
 
Angkor Wat 24
Apostolic Palace 9
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 14
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 20
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 23 (22+1) we need something from that part of the world, good use for a mountain tile
Neuschwanstein 19
Notre-Dame 23
Panama Canal 11 (14-3) not really a wonder
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 12
Shwedagon Paya 24
Spiral Minaret 21
Statue of Liberty 21
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 18
University of Sankoré 17
Versailles 24
 
Angkor Wat 24
Apostolic Palace 9
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 14+1=15 - I have to save it! Why does University of Sankoré more points than this beautiful and iconic wonder?
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 20
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 23
Neuschwanstein 19
Notre-Dame 23
Panama Canal 11-3=8 - Placement problems.
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 12
Shwedagon Paya 24
Spiral Minaret 21
Statue of Liberty 21
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 18
University of Sankoré 17
Versailles 24
 
Angkor Wat 24
Apostolic Palace 6 (9 - 3) It's a big set of apartments. Most people, shown a picture, couldn't pick it out of a collection of apartment blocks from around the world. For the Vatican, St Peter's with Sistine Chapel (ceiling as a Great Work and you're covered.
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 20
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 23
Neuschwanstein 19
Notre-Dame 23
Panama Canal 9 (8 + 1) Placement Problems? Isn't one of the points of Wonders in Civ VI to give most of them Placement Problems so that Wonder Hogging is nigh impossible? And as for depicting it as a multi-tile Wonder, isn't that how China's Great Wall is depicted? And most of the Natural Wonders? We've been asking for Canals in Civ since at least Civ IV, it's time to hold Firaxis' feet to the fire...
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 12
Shwedagon Paya 24
Spiral Minaret 21
Statue of Liberty 21
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 18
University of Sankoré 17
Versailles 24
 
Boris Gudenuf said:
Panama Canal 9 (8 + 1) Placement Problems? Isn't one of the points of Wonders in Civ VI to give most of them Placement Problems so that Wonder Hogging is nigh impossible? And as for depicting it as a multi-tile Wonder, isn't that how China's Great Wall is depicted? And most of the Natural Wonders? We've been asking for Canals in Civ since at least Civ IV, it's time to hold Firaxis' feet to the fire...
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China's Great Wall is Unique Improvement. That's something different. We're talking about Panama Canal as a Wonder. And about placement problems... It's 77 kilometers long, so I can't imagine it as one tile wonder, so that's the first problem. Most of wonders have specific placement requirements so you cannot build them all in one city, but it's possible to build them practically on every type of map. But this? One tile of land between two seas. How do you want to build that on Pangaea? And even most of Continents don't have such one tile of land between two seas. Only map where I can imagine it are Island Plates, and there it would be useless.
 
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Angkor Wat 24
Apostolic Palace 6
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 20
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 23
Neuschwanstein 19
Notre-Dame 23
Panama Canal 6 (9-3) As written above: canals - yes, a canal wonder - no. I also think that a canal shouldn't be an improvement by the way, but a district (comparable to the aqueduct in cost) that needs an adjacent harbor.
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 12
Shwedagon Paya 24
Spiral Minaret 21
Statue of Liberty 21
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 18
University of Sankoré 18 (17+1) While this might not be the best name for this, I think it is/was important (and iconic) enough, not just because it is from Africa. And since I'm way too much into Malian culture, I would personally exchange this one for almost any of the wonders present in Civ VI ;-)
Versailles 24
 
Angkor Wat 24
Apostolic Palace 6
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 20
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 23
Neuschwanstein 19
Notre-Dame 23
Panama Canal 7 (6+1) an absolutely industrial age wonder
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 12
Shwedagon Paya 24
Spiral Minaret 18 (21-3) only few wiki pages -> cant be so important or hard to construct like a canal through a continent
Statue of Liberty 21
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 18
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24
 
Angkor Wat 24
Apostolic Palace 6
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 20-3 =17 Not if it's called this
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 23
Neuschwanstein 19
Notre-Dame 23
Panama Canal 7
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 12
Shwedagon Paya 24
Spiral Minaret 18
Statue of Liberty 21
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 18+1=19 Yes! :)
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24
 
Angkor Wat 24
Apostolic Palace 3 (6-3) don't know much about this one.
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 17
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 24 (23+1) I like how it would build on to a mountain would look good in Civ 6, and would make mountain useful other than NP.
Neuschwanstein 19
Notre-Dame 23
Panama Canal 7
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 12
Shwedagon Paya 24
Spiral Minaret 18
Statue of Liberty 21
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 19
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24
 
Angkor Wat 24
Apostolic Palace 3
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 17
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 24
Neuschwanstein 19
Notre-Dame 23
Panama Canal 7 - 3 = 4 Placement problems, and I'm not really interested in that.
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 12
Shwedagon Paya 24 + 1 = 25 Although not so famous. It is very beautiful, visually unique on the map, and a wonder of Southeast Asia, we have none of there yet.
Spiral Minaret 18
Statue of Liberty 21
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 19
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24
 
Angkor Wat 24
Apostolic Palace 3
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 17
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 24
Neuschwanstein 19
Notre-Dame 23
Panama Canal 1 (4 - 3) -- It's infrastructure, not a wonder. Canals would be fine, but I don't see the point of a Panama Canal wonder.
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 13 (12 + 1) -- We need more East Asian wonders.
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 18
Statue of Liberty 21
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 19
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24
 
Angkor Wat 24
Apostolic Palace 3
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 17
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 24
Neuschwanstein 19
Notre-Dame 23
Panama Canal 1-3=-2 (ELIMINATED) - Placement problems.
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 13+1=14 - Why not? In my opinion, it would look great on map.
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 18
Statue of Liberty 21
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 19
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24
 
Angkor Wat 24
Apostolic Palace 0 (3 - 3) - and replace with St Peter's, if you must have a Vatican Wonder
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin 17
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 24
Neuschwanstein 20 (19 + 1) Not really a 'castle', but a Tourist Folly, a Wonder that could be tied specifically to the Rise of Tourism and Cultural Victory in the game - an artificial "National Park" if you will - and much more spectacular on the map.
Notre-Dame 23
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 14
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 18
Statue of Liberty 21
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 19
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24
 
Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 20
Kremlin (17-3)=14 Maybe St. Basil's can be added, but not the Kremlin itself. I wouldn't want the wonder to visually appear as the Cathedral, but be called the Kremlin.
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 24
Neuschwanstein 20
Notre-Dame 23
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower (14+1)=15 It might not be considered famous, but it was on some Seven Wonders of the World lists. I'm more for supporting a Pagoda type of Wonder in the game, even if pagoda is a religious building already. There's also that Korean Pagoda mentioned by Morningcalm, which also no longer exists. That would be a neat wonder too.
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 18
Statue of Liberty 21
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 19
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24

It seems like the three SE Asian wonders don't get too much support...I realize that eventually they will fall. SE Asia desperately needs a wonder though.
 
Angkor Wat 24
Apostolic Palace 0 unbelievable that this is out: even the palace without St. Peter's Basilica includes the
Sistine Chapel, maybe someone want to vote better for a caveman house?
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 17 (20-3) Paperhouse
Kremlin 15 (14+1) more iconic than most other here
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 24
Neuschwanstein 20
Notre-Dame 23
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 15
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 18
Statue of Liberty 21
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 19
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24
 
Manifold said:
Angkor Wat 24
Apostolic Palace 0 unbelievable that this is out: even the palace without St. Peter's Basilica includes the
Sistine Chapel, maybe someone want to vote better for a caveman house?
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 17 (20-3) Paperhouse
Kremlin 15 (14+1) more iconic than most other here
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 24
Neuschwanstein 20
Notre-Dame 23
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 15
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 18
Statue of Liberty 21
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 19
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24
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Sistine Chapel would not make a good wonder for Civ6. Would they even show the painting being painted in the animation? That's pretty much the only reason it was placed in the games.
Please refrain from using terms like "caveman house", it sounds pretty racist and demeaning. And it's insulting to the "Cavemen", who weren't lacking in intelligence.
 
Angkor Wat 24
Borobudur 23
Great Mosque of Djenné 15
Himeji Castle 17
Kremlin 15
Louvre 20
Machu Picchu 24
Neuschwanstein 20
Notre-Dame 23
Parthenon 25
Porcelain Tower 15
Shwedagon Paya 25
Spiral Minaret 18
Statue of Liberty 21-3=18 (Very difficult to vote down; all of them are amazing. I go for this one as it's my least favorite. It would look amazing on the map though...)
Statue of Zeus 26
Taj Mahal 34
Temple of Artemis 19+1=20 ("I have seen the walls and Hanging Gardens of ancient Babylon, the statue of Olympian Zeus, the Colossus of Rhodes, the mighty work of the high Pyramids and the tomb of Mausolus. But when I saw the temple at Ephesus rising to the clouds, all these other wonders were put in the shade"- Antipater of Sidon
University of Sankoré 18
Versailles 24
 
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