RFC Europe: Extending/Fixing City Name Maps
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BurnEmDown
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Oh woops, I meant "citynamemaps".
micbic
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@Myri: I have corrected these, but I havent put there the file (expect it done before next Alpha)
JediClemente
Prince
The spanish settler map seems to keep the same mistakes from months ago. There are tiles inside the Iberian Peninsula without name (appear as Murcia). 
With of course the typical Netherlands and Sicily/Italy problems.
I would gladly correct it, if I knew how.
With of course the typical Netherlands and Sicily/Italy problems.
I would gladly correct it, if I knew how.
micbic
Optimistic Pessimist
Spain will be looked after.
Italy has been corrected (sure you have the last version?)
Nederland will be alright soon.
Italy has been corrected (sure you have the last version?)
Nederland will be alright soon.
Michael Vick
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Who did the the Spanish Map for the low countries?, I could look over that, expand it if there are problems.
Also, micbic, Jerusalem in Spanish is Jerusalen.
Also, micbic, Jerusalem in Spanish is Jerusalen.
Michael Vick
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Played a game with Alpha 4, either I messed up while extracting or all the new city name maps I submitted are still out.
3Miro
Deity
Ask micbic. Also, always completely remove the old RFCEurope folder when upgrading.
Michael Vick
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micbic????? What happened to the maps I sent? Why is the Sassari tile tagged as "Sasser" for Spain???
micbic
Optimistic Pessimist
At first, sorry for my absence.
Now to the issues:
@Michael: For now, only Italy is done. The names I used are from wikipedia, I used your map where no other references were possible. It may be that Sasser is the Catalan version of Sassari (I used Catalan variants where no ''Castillan'' were available, and I could say that they are preferable in Sicily-Sardinia). Also, I didn't put the names as you had them in your map, but made a ''hybrid'' of yours and the existing map (which was made by an Italian guy). But it is surely better than before. I promise to include the Lowland updated map now. And thanks for Jerusalen.
@Myri: I will include them for sure. I thought I did (Wittenberg at least).
@3Miro: I would like to create an updated colormap for the name-helper, to update jessiecat's changes in the map. How to do that?
Now to the issues:
@Michael: For now, only Italy is done. The names I used are from wikipedia, I used your map where no other references were possible. It may be that Sasser is the Catalan version of Sassari (I used Catalan variants where no ''Castillan'' were available, and I could say that they are preferable in Sicily-Sardinia). Also, I didn't put the names as you had them in your map, but made a ''hybrid'' of yours and the existing map (which was made by an Italian guy). But it is surely better than before. I promise to include the Lowland updated map now. And thanks for Jerusalen.
@Myri: I will include them for sure. I thought I did (Wittenberg at least).
@3Miro: I would like to create an updated colormap for the name-helper, to update jessiecat's changes in the map. How to do that?
3Miro
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You mean an Excel spreadsheet? To be honest, I have no clue. I think the spreadsheet was done long time ago by someone else. Most of the map was done before I got involved (when I started coding only the map was there and nothing else).
sedna17
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I can/will post an updated map for use with my name-helper program. Probably tonight, possibly tomorrow.
Michael Vick
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@micbic: Well Spain starts the game as the kingdom of leon, which speaks castillian, the aragonese territories have to be conquered by the player, they're not a part of the player's civ. the civilization that we play as is not Castillian-Catalan, but Spanish. Catalan names for Sardinia-Sicily would be good for about 200 years, then they'd be Spanish. If we had this attitude for all the map then there'd be Basque names in Navarre, Galician names in Galicia, etc. I think it's best we use Spanish names for Spain, don't you? And my Italian map is done in Spanish, I think a Spanish guy is better for that than an Italian guy.
3Miro
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micbic, two things:
1. Russians have a new city name map on one of the Russian treads.
2. Seeing where you are from, I have a question. I don't like the name Byzantine and Byzantines, however, Roman and Romans would be confusing with the Pope's Rome. How about we change the Byzantines to Romai or Byzantium to ... well this is the question, what is the appropriate thing?
1. Russians have a new city name map on one of the Russian treads.
2. Seeing where you are from, I have a question. I don't like the name Byzantine and Byzantines, however, Roman and Romans would be confusing with the Pope's Rome. How about we change the Byzantines to Romai or Byzantium to ... well this is the question, what is the appropriate thing?
Michael Vick
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Ok I don't mean to offend but with all due respect, the Italy map is a mess now. First of all, I take back what I said about Catalan, if you were going to go about it in that attitude, you should have done it in Aragonese, but it doesn't matter anyway because the best option is Spanish.
I'm going to start with Corsica: It has not been changed at all.
Now Sardinia: Sasser should just be Sassari, the tile to the right it is... micbic, would you care to explain what "Civita" is? Then the tile that should be Alguer is blank, Oistan should be Oristan.
Sicily is fine although the Syracuse tile is blank.
Italy: Reggio is the modern name, in the Castillian Spanish of the day, it was called Rijoles. What's Monteleone? Potenza is not on the coast. Bari is on the Adriatic, not the Gulf of Taranto, speaking of Tarento, you put it two tiles West of where it should be. The tile above the mountain is blank. The tile to the East of that is also blank. What's Vieste? Benevento is also not on the Adriatic. The tile North of the incorrect Benevento tile is blank. The tile NW of that is also blank. Do I need to continue any farther North?
I sincerely hope that there isn't some "Moroccan guy" that you're getting maps from after all the work I did.
3Miro
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Get back to your thesis and stop waisting time here
As much as I would like to have you back (working on the mod I mean), you have more important things to do now.
micbic
Optimistic Pessimist
@3Miro: The Byzantines called indeed themselves ''Romans'' (Romii in Greek), so Roman would be, in that view, a good term. On the other hand, historians call them ''Eastern Roman'' before Heraclius and ''Byzantine'' after him. The term ''Greek'' should be used for any respawn after 1600. And I will take the Russian map.
@MichaelVick: Thinking it better, I tend to agree with your first opinion. When I told about putting the names as ''not exactly as in your map'', I don't tell about the names (here I copied from your map and Spanish variants from wikipedia), but about the placing. The map I made goes too north (even Venice has been given the Spanish name), so you don't need to work further on it. I didn't say I worked on Corsica yet, I don't think it is Italy
. OK for Sassari, Alguer, Oristan and any other points. Civita is the medieval name for Olbia and samely Monteleone the medieval name for Vibo Valentia (both of them were the ancient Roman name that were re-used by Mussolini). Vieste is a town in E Italy, between Pescara and Bari. Any other mistakes may be effect of the use of the 2x2 preference per city.
Other compalints welcome
@MichaelVick: Thinking it better, I tend to agree with your first opinion. When I told about putting the names as ''not exactly as in your map'', I don't tell about the names (here I copied from your map and Spanish variants from wikipedia), but about the placing. The map I made goes too north (even Venice has been given the Spanish name), so you don't need to work further on it. I didn't say I worked on Corsica yet, I don't think it is Italy
. OK for Sassari, Alguer, Oristan and any other points. Civita is the medieval name for Olbia and samely Monteleone the medieval name for Vibo Valentia (both of them were the ancient Roman name that were re-used by Mussolini). Vieste is a town in E Italy, between Pescara and Bari. Any other mistakes may be effect of the use of the 2x2 preference per city.Other compalints welcome
3Miro
Deity
That is exactly why I want to put not the Byzantines, but The Romaii, Romaii Empire and so on. What you you think?
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