RFC Europe Stability Maps

[theeternalcowby]

Hey ya'll this is probably an oft asked question, but does anyone have a link to stability maps for rfc europe? specifically Venice as thats who I'm playing now but any are also great. Ive looked around the site and searched and cant seem to find them. I just want to know the historical areas for venice and specifically how far I can expand north and east before I start to suffer negative stability (as well as the wrath of my neighbors

thanks

 

[ezzlar]

Well. In-game you just need to hover the mouse cursor over the plot you are interested in. It will then display the name of the province and state if it is "solid", "ok" or "unstable".

Press and hold "ctrl" while hovering and you will see the size of the province also. Pressing "shift" and hovering will show spawn areas.

 

[Spirictum]

I'm sure these stability maps exist, but i've never seen them. I think someone from the team will answer you better about it (as they should have those maps), but in the mean time something about Venice:

You are a Merchant Republic, so if you intend to keep it that way be sure not to overexpand, even on Solid or OK provinces. Verona (capital), Tuscany, Croatia and Dalmatia are your Solid provinces. To complete UHV1 you need all of these besides Tuscany.

Your OK provinces are Epirus, Morea, Carinthia, Crete, Rhodes and Constantinople. Epirus is needed for UHV1 and Constantinople for UHV2. If you have only one city in each of the needed provinces, you'll end up with 5 cities. You'll even imagine that everything is fine and your Stability is high, but it's not like this. The last thing you need is to secure an Atlantic Resource (by conquest or by trade). Better by trade, but it's too hard (I think that the only way to do it is trading with a Vassal, nobody else will trade that with you). So a conquest may be needed.

After you get your 6th city things start to be messy (a lot less now in RFCE 1.0, but still considerable). Merchant Republic suffers instability after you get more then 5 cities.

I ended my Venetian game with a Historical Victory having Tuscany, Verona, Croatia, Dalmatia, Epirus, Morea, Crete, Rhodes, Constantinople and Tetouan (Tanjah). Lots of Golden Ages to achieve stability enough for all of them, and Rhodes I only got in the last turn (it wasn't possible for my stability to get it earlier), and Tanjah was for my Atlantic Resource.

Best tip for Venetian game: You MUST control the crusades, all of them, do it everywhere, vassalize some, destroy others, get Jerusalem once (Golden Age), get Constantinople (UHV2 + UHV1 = Golden Age), and best of all: Free units for the Merchant Republic.

This is what I've achieved:

Ended: 1556 AD
Vassals: Portugal, Spain and Austria

 

[AbsintheRed]

Is this with RFCE 1.01?
Spain seems very weak (not just here, in my test setups too)
Also, the Ottomans should be a bigger threat on Hungary - but I suspect you had a big part of stopping the Ottoman expansion by having Constantinople...
Did you help Austria to control Germany, as it was your vassal?
Otherwise the map looks really nice, with the expection of a collapsed Poland

 

[Spirictum]

Yeah it is with 1.01.

Portugal vassalized Spain. On older versions Spain would take Toledo at their spawn or just after it most of the times. Now it's not the first time I've seen they failing. So they went for O Porto, just to be slaughtered by angry portuguese at their spawn and vassalized. Later Portugal offered me to become a Vassal (still holding Spain). I accepted and talking to free Spain they wanted to become my vassal too.

I didn't engage the Ottomans at all, so only the control of Constantinople was enough to make them weak. And they had to fight a Survivor Byzantine State, that handled quite well the fall of their capital, and were only destroyed at 1392 AD. Bulgaria was my Vassal, but the Ottomans started at war with them (and not with me, curiously). I tried to give the former Byzantine Greece to him, but the Ottomans took their capital, ending the Venetian Bulgaria.

This way is easy to understand how Hungary managed to control the Ottomans: besides all my help with Constantinople, during all game we were friends. Or at least they feared my army (lots of crusaders gathered at my territory for most of the time). And I vassalized two of his sure enemies Bulgaria and Austria, leaving him with the Mongol Invasion and our common foe Poland. Poland sided with the Norse and I sided with Hungary. Let Hungary destroy Poland.

Austria started washing Braunschweig and Leipzig from Germany, then they asked to become a Vassal. I agreed and declared war at Germany. Soon we made peace and after that the war was against the Norse and Poland, Austria took Lubeck from Poland and that's the last city they got, all by their own. The war was beautiful: Venetia, Venetians Spain, Portugal and Austria, Muscovy and Hungary against Poland and the Norse. Against Poland we even had the help of Germany and Lithuania. Poland didn't last a couple of turns after the declaration, and the Norse got away safely.

Actually Poland had being a powerful state that engaged war against the Norse, Germany and Lithuania and was successful most of the time. But it couldn't hold the wrath of all its neighbors.